/5/ - Chaos

The site reveals itself to them when their pineal gland has sufficiently developed. If they're still on 4chan it means they may profess to being Discordians, but in their hearts they are still very stupid people that browse 4chan.

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>>15476 (OP) 
I found Principia Discordia one random day on the Internet Archive and didn't understand it (it was in spanish my mother language), then I saw a video of a guy who was on psychedelics and talked about the Discordians and their weird customs and dogmas, like hot dogs on weekends and their obsession with the crazy bitch that live in the pineal gland and the number 23.
Then an anon on a Spanish chan shared a link to this site to me, and I ended up here.
And yes, ever since I got into this damn religion, I can't stop seeing the damn number 23, but the eyes seek and the mind confirms what it wants to find.
I haven't read the Illuminatus trilogy. I'd really like to read it in my language, as I speak Spanish.
>Also
as a result of the events in my life, I begin to stop being an atheist and start to believe that Eris is a real deity, I am always on the threshold of material and essentialist doubt, which makes me more agnostic every day.
RAW defined it as the final battle between Schrodinger's cat and Pavlov's dog. Although, to be honest, I am happy with this chaos.
>How to get more userbase
There's a lot of Discordians on facebook groups, i learned some thing there.
i like the jew Kabbalist meditations It seems like they're hypnotized and even use same methods as hypnosis lol

Discordianism is old news. It was popular among early hackers/late hippies, leading to it having a little influence on the early internet, but with the mainstreaming of the net, it's but an oddity.
Unless we change with the times, we'll be left behind. LOLSORANDOM humor died long ago, political polarity has increased and overall our anti-cultural tendencies are out of date with what the culture we're against even is.
If anything, the Principia is very much out of date, and was more of a funny oddity of its time. Its contents are useless if not a little interesting today. The more anti-authoritarian edge of the publishings  by principiadiscordia.com's staff doesn't really scratch the itch of today's society either.
I say we bury ourselves in esotericism and extreme seriousness, the joke being our unserious origins. I'm sure that'll appeal to the polarized political youth.

>>15479
>Unless we change with the times, we'll be left behind.
Oh no, shitternet will leave behind the good things that once were! Clearly the solution was to become shitternet.

>I'm sure that'll appeal to the polarized political youth.
The youth are less political than you might think.
Genuine anti-authoritarianism is not popular, but I think they yearn for it. Perhaps they will learn that bowdlerized social media protesting is not the way.

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>>15478
>I can't stop seeing the damn number 23
The amount of 23s I've been encountering lately have been off the charts. Offline or online, doesn't matter. If I were to try and post them all in that 23 thread I would probably get B& for flooding. Not sure what this may portend, but it's been a source of much amusement as of late.
>the Illuminatus trilogy. I'd really like to read it in my language
Surprised that hasn't been translated into Spanish yet. A quick search and there's German and French. Finnish even and yet there are so many Spanish speakers. A tall order, but something should be done about that.

>>15478
¿Hay unos sitios web en español donde puede hablar de Discordianismo como aquí? Quiero aprender castellano y descargar memes por eso.

>>15479
>>15480
I agree many of the youth are still desensitized and nihilistic like in the 90s. The time for radical antiauthoritarianism is coming back. The hippie and hacker ways are more relevant than ever. Hell, look at how solarpunk is doing. There are young people out there, gay as all hell, breaking into corporate facilities to guerilla garden while on mushrooms. The wheel is turning.

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>>15476 (OP) 
I am writing my own holy book for my cabal(the A.C.U.L.T.) of ramblings, rants, theosophical theories, divine conspiracies, religious poems (all original); I've even pilfered content from this site under copyleft and preservation (i do try to give credit where it is due, but sometimes anonymity gets in the way), as well as free advertising for this site therein. It'll have memes and art, too!

Currently I'm debating with myself if I should scour old archive sites for some more Discordian content. I also debate if I should 'publish' it officially or just email the Library of Eris a free copy to post into their collection.

I don't really expect a big splash, even in the local community. If anything I'm trying to iconify all the chaos in my head. But if future readers like it, then that is well enough for me.

>>15480
Nobody's saying we start making tiktoks, but we should be visible in a way that's more appealing than those ugly old hippies on facebook.
>Genuine anti-authoritarianism is not popular, but I think they yearn for it.
Everyone yearns to be the underdog, but we live in a time where people are more likely to choose an authoritarian solution to force their will through the bureaucracy of state.
It shouldn't be about pro- or anti- authority, but about enforcing radical will and rejecting conventional morality/culture. I just hope we can achieve that without inviting in morons who want to reject the very basic animal instincts, and start smearing shit on the wall.
I feel as if Discordianism became almost a kind of antithesis of itself, pleading about seeing things through a different frame, all the while many self-ordained discordians keep themselves busy with conventional politics, screaming about american elections and what trump or putin might be up to. Not very interesting.

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>>15481
Hola
i found it there
https://lamanzanadoradaeris.blogspot.com/2012/10/trilogia-illuminatus-en-espanol-nueva.html

The link to scribd is down but you can maybe still read some pages on the blogspot
https://illuminatusenespanolparteiii.blogspot.com/

This Argentinian dude do a lot of work around the topic of discordianism...
https://www.blogger.com/profile/06296974703476815061
Are there Erisians in Argentina? It seems like the guy went to all the trouble of creating the entire Discordian lore in Spanish from Argentina lol (Another damn victory for the country.)
However, I could swear that a publisher recently released a Spanish version, but it is not by this author maybe.

This is pretty much the only great imageboard left.  I used to love Uboachan, but Seisatsu turned it into a pedotranny Discord server and now it's dead as fuck anyways.  This site is dead as fuck too, but at least this site is still high-quality.  I just really wish that this place were more active.

>>15484
>but we should be visible in a way that's more appealing than those ugly old hippies on facebook.
we are. This website. The zines.
I schism with the belief that a fundamentally esoteric religion should market itself in any way besides that which aligns with its obscurantist ethos. Not My Cabal.
>It shouldn't be about pro- or anti- authority, but about enforcing radical will and rejecting conventional morality/culture.
What do you think "radical will" and "rejecting conventional morality/culture" are? What do you think they amount to in practice?
>all the while many self-ordained discordians keep themselves busy with conventional politics, screaming about american elections and what trump or putin might be up to.
Yes it's very unfortunate that politics affects us and deciding that you don't care is an expensive luxury. I have yet to see any discordians that truly believe these things to take primacy over the worship of the goddess Eris. Then again, I'm not hip to what the old farts on facebook are up to.

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>grow our userbase
We need more splintering and division

>>15487
>What do you think "radical will" and "rejecting conventional morality/culture" are? What do you think they amount to in practice?
nothing so conventional as common anarchism.
Surrounded by nationalists? posit kleinstaaterei.
Surrounded by hippies? Propose totalitarianism.
It can either be contextual or generalized based on a sample size of your surrounding populace, but you get the gist.
There should be no such thing as taboo.
Alas I don't always try to be contrarian. In fact I'm Anti-contrarian now.
>I have yet to see any discordians that truly believe these things to take primacy over the worship of the goddess Eris.
claims and reality are often deceiving.
You could sacrifice a kindergarten of children in Her name, and still people would be mad saying "that's not the right way to worship Eris!" and then blabber on about the "human rights" and stuff.

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>>15488
But splintering is better with more people. At some point we just end up dividing one by one - no I'm not cutting myself in twain for Eris.

So, I declare, we shall grow to splint.

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>>15479
>our anti-cultural tendencies are out of date with what the culture we're against even is
Oh thy God! We outlived the hippies!

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>>15483
>I also debate if I should 'publish' it officially or just email the Library of Eris a free copy to post into their collection.
That's an option: publishing it through the LoE and sharing that around.

>>15486
>This is pretty much the only great imageboard left.
See, there are other ones which are great, but they tend to stay that way because they aren't general purpose.
Personally I've loved plus4chan (2006-present) for over a decade, although drifted away due to priorities. It laid dormant, maybe double the current erischan level of energy, until 4chan /co/ started migrating their tournaments over to avoid shitty 4chan mods. I haven't paid attention but I think the 4filth haven't smeared too much shit on the windows. Although it might help that /co/ is olev. And the current admin is outstanding - they wrote a custom IB software that isn't garbage, they have time to code up plenty of fun things (e.g. excellent April Fools effects, heroes theme, /sssr/ intro) and I heard a rumor they collaborated with this site's dev to trade notes on antispam techniques, so they, like us, don't get that crap daily.

>>15496
Speaking of +4, all the necrobumping thread recycling going on here reminded me of how people would keep whining to empty rooms of scrawlings from anons from eons ago.

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>>15497
>7 years
ok but we can go higher

>>15489
Opposition to the authoritarianism of whatever group you happen to be around is still anti-authoritarianism.
>There should be no such thing as taboo.
Nah, everything should be taboo.
>You could sacrifice a kindergarten of children in Her name, and still people would be mad saying "that's not the right way to worship Eris!" and then blabber on about the "human rights" and stuff.
It would be profoundly un-discordian if they didn't disagree with you.

Eris doesn't give us any guidance on ethics, she passes no judgement and offers us no forgiveness. If you think that means there is no right or wrong then you're just stupid.

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>>15499
>If you think that means there is no right or wrong then you're just stupid.
I really appreciate that strain of Buddhist philosophical Jujutsu in regards to the right/wrong binary that often frames matters in a construct of skillful/unskillful and helpful/unhelpful instead of right/wrong and even though that may be besides the point here, at least I have an excuse to post this unintentional pun that I came across on Wikipedia a while back.

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>>15500
heh. I didn't know about Jujutsu, but I did become aware of the typical 'right/wrong' moral binary being a joke (along with linear 'better/worse' often used to oversimplify complex things) and so I often try to catch myself and replace it with more objective terms like 'useful', 'helpful', 'dangerous', 'antisocial'.

Like all rules, moral guides are most useful when you understand why they exist, and learn when to break them. And nor should be mindlessly chant 'rules are for fools!', as tempting as it is. Anyone who's working in construction (i.e. every past present and future erischan.org poster) knows that health and safety regulations are each written in blood. They must be treated with respect, not ignored, nor treated like a child. Fools let rules become rulers.

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>>15489

>You could sacrifice a kindergarten of children in Her name, and still people would be mad saying "that's not the right way to worship Eris!" and then blabber on about the "human rights" and stuff.

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>>15476 (OP) 
Classical issue of altboards who would rather invite the tumor than stay undead. The cancer cell thinks it is alive when really it is simply awaiting to perish. And once it is opened in as one would a great guest, with a feast, banquet and great wonders of an obscure location, they shall act surprised when the new ones, muddy, idiotic and young will trash the place all around. Rinse and repeat, every, single, altboards.

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>>15485 (checked)
thanks for the links

>>15500
That is a nice way of looking at it, but I feel like they are really just elaborating on what makes things right or wrong, not necessarily replacing the concepts.
>>15501
right/wrong isn't a binary, unless you think a turn of phrase implies pure ontological states. It's also not necessarily a set of rules.
>>15503
quite so. Imageboards that grow their userbase beyond their means always get stuck in eternal september.

>>15499
is opposition to peer pressure of a group anti-authoritarian? even when the group promotes anti-authoritarianism?
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It would be profoundly un-discordian if they didn't disagree with you.
so true.
>If you think that means there is no right or wrong then you're just stupid.
...
>eris passes no judgement
>this means there's right and wrong
my moral compass doesn't always point the same direction. Amorality isn't immorality.
>>15502
thanks, i feel 15 years younger with that pic.

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>>15503
I've known a couple of sites where someone has posted 4chan ads and all the regular users have groaned. Now, I don't have a position on ads apart from personally hating all commercial ads, but it wouldn't be silly to consider unified responses to impending doom enemies.

>>15504
>>15485 (peer reviewed)
neat pic

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cont.
>but it wouldn't be silly to consider unified responses to impending doom enemies
Its definitely worth discussing what we actually like about this ib, what we think is worth keeping and what we're open to changing. Because then moderation can reflect that.
For example, admindude envisioned /b/ (/5/) to be similar to 4chan /b/, while some other users incl me said /b/s were so generic and everywhere that we don't want this to be more of the same. haha porn nigger fag tranny nazitrump LOL. but at the same time, we're not hypercurating this place either, mods have intentionally left a few spam posts and pepe trash up so long as it's not dominating the site like the polish edgelord who just posted penises and scat every day.

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>>15485
>Spanish Princia Discordia
The Principia Discordia of that pic is in archive and here
https://erischan.org/eris/thread/3725.html

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>>15489

>You could sacrifice a kindergarten of children in Her name, and still people would be mad saying "that's not the right way to worship Eris!" and then blabber on about the "human rights" and stuff.

This is a Discordian imageboard.  If you want to be a tryhard edgelord LARPer faggot, the 764O9A333liberofkeksinisternoctulianpedoretard Discord servers are that way. --->

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>>15513
>i'm a discordian and here's my moralfag guidebook on how to be a decent heckin human being

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>>15516

>decent heckin human being

Go back.

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>>15517
why the fuck would you willingly save images like that lmao

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>>15513
>>15517
These two memes are a fine piece of art of pure Post-postmodernism postmodernism.

>>15516
Ethics has literally nothing to do with discordianism. Your rejection of it has nothing to do with discordianism either, it has to do with you being pointlessly edgy.

>>15520
then why does my edginess anger you so, if it is irrelevant?

>>15525
irrelevant to discordianism != irrelevant to life

Eris doesn't tell me to wipe my ass either.

>>15525

>Why does advocating for the mass murder of kindergarteners anger people?

No idea.

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>>15531
Everything is irrelevant to Discordianism.
So I guess no sentiment can ever be ascribed to it.
pic related, it's in the PD.

>>15540
Exactly! You've got no idea!

>>15551
>Everything is irrelevant to Discordianism.
False.
>So I guess no sentiment can ever be ascribed to it.
Even if your previous statement were true, this would still not be a valid conclusion.
>it's in the PD
I wipe my ass with the PD.

>>15554
>I wipe my ass with the PD.
same
>False.
so are you.

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>>15555
>I wipe my ass with the PD.
Of course, as instructed on page 00164

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>>15478
>And yes, ever since I got into this damn religion, I can't stop seeing the damn number 23
23 is a Death/rebirth; a new beegining in the cabals.
>but the eyes seek and the mind confirms what it wants to find.
23.

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420chan's pale shuddering ghost has a subfeddit if you cats want to mention this here place there they might be into it.

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>>15476 (OP) 
We have put a link to Erischan at the bottom of every single page at the Anonymous Military Institute.

We're currently exporting weapons schematics to crazy people online, so once one of our terrifying new inventions gets in the news, our notoriety should rub off onto Erischan.

https://bestpoint.institute

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>>15581
>up there next to ae exotic falconry
It's an honor.