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3192 approaches...
also should we put links to the zines and other podges here?


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It's biologically hardcoded for people to seek out multiple mates to ensure the continuation of their genetic line. So why aren't we all practicing polygamy? Why is that conveniently considered “degenerate” by conservatives?
>le degeneracy is bad society
Except society today isn't the same as the world we evolved from. It’s not even the same as it was in the 1900s. The world today is so radically different and fast changing from anything our ancestors evolved to face. It begs the question: if we have no need for a good amount of these hardcoded behaviors (since they’re maladaptive anyway) why are we still abiding by them? Why should we abide by them?
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Cause I don't like people.
more spouses more problems
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>>15733 (OP) 
>It's biologically hardcoded for people to seek out multiple mates
source: many people say it, so it must be true.

>>15735
strewth
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>>15733 (OP) 
I just want one girl... and its sad that i cant be with that girl (maybe) for now.
Maybr there's another (one girl) maybe.
>also
But there'exist Femboys and Clown girls :0
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>>15736
I wonder how much further along we'd all be if less people announced opinions and hypothesis as if they were fact.

I've started to grow more interested in how to promote dialectic over debate.

>>15735
I've heard polygamists (as opposed to cheaters) say it's also easier. The whole 'takes a village to raise a child' thing, y'know.
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>>15733 (OP) 
>It's biologically hardcoded 

Not really. Polygamy arises in the context of nomadic lifestyles. Often in pastoralist societies, but also in shifting horticulture societies, which honestly is why we see it mostly practiced today by muslims (pastoralists) and sub saharans (shifting horticulturalists). 

It arises because in these societies, men will do the migratory work, while women will stay behind in sedentary settlements. For example, in pastoral contexts, you'll often have a summer pasturage and a winter pasturage. Well, the men drive the herds between those two places, and end up having a wife in each of them, e.g. like the berbers do. 

In shifting horticulture, instead of rotating crops, the men will basically work an area one year and deplete the land, and then migrate elsewhere, and so on until they finally rotationally migrate back to where they started, with the land having laid fallow while they were working other plots. In this scenario too: you leave the pregnant women behind in sedentary outposts, acquiring a new wife at each stop. 

This doesn't cause problems because the men are taking wives in genetically diverse and distant regions. 

When you move into true sedentary agriculture, though, problems arise. Firstly is the issue that only wealthy men will be able to afford multiple wives. This isn't nomadicism where having other wives is a convenience for a migratory man, but it's a cost now. So only a limited pool of wealthy men get multiple wives. Secondly, this leads to lesser men getting no wife at all, due to sex ratios. 

This leads into the real issues: firstly, incels. They can either revolt, or conquer surrounding nations to find reproductive success. This is unstable and unsustainable in the long run. Secondly, genetic bottle-necking. If only a small caste of rich men are reproducing, this quickly causes inbreeding in the society. 

Unrelated, but you also end up with inheritance law problems. Does your elder son by your second wife get all the lands, or does your younger son by your first wife? The elder son is likely advantaged and could kill the younger son, but the senior wife likely has a large pool of social and political allies with whom to kill the elder son. We can see historical stories like this, for instance, in the consolidation of King Solomon's reign, where he has to defeat the elder sons of his father David who were born of different mothers. 

And as cultures become more sedentary, that's when you start seeing things like limitations on who is allowed to practice polygamy, how many wives they're allowed to have (e.g. islam caps it to 4 wives in the modern era, hinduism historically had limits from 0-4 based on caste, the frankish nobility once practiced it, but not the commons, etc) until eventually you reach a point where institutionalized polygamy goes away entirely.
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>>15770
informative post
& a curious timestamp
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>>15774
Wow, I didn't even notice the time. Truly impressive.
I think having more than one spouse would be fun. But surely the pazazz would fade, no?
Imagine have sex 32 times in a row everyday. Sounds very tiring.
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>>15781
>Sounds very tiring.
There was an HBO series called Big Love about a Mormon polygamist family living in the suburbs. In one episode the guy nearly ODs on those little blue pills trying to keep up and keep it up with his three wives. Be careful what you wish for as the saying goes.
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>>15770
To be fair, it's not uncommon for people to have multiple relationships at a time, it's just very rare for those relationships to all have equal standing legally/culturally. Like having what the kids call a "side piece" isn't uncommon, sometimes the wife even approves because she might not want sex that often.

>>15781
>>15782
The mormons are doing it wrong. Bisexuality is mandatory for everyone in a polycule to be sexually satisfied, if the male:female ratio lies outside the range [0.8,2.6].
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>>15783
>The mormons are doing it wrong
Well, in the aforementioned series the writers addressed that notion. In one family the sister wives played together. A Machiavellian first born son was a repressed homosexual and a depiction of one of the sects featured a prominent family member who was a butch lesbian costumed in male garb and it was implied that she had a harem of her own if I recall correctly.
>Bisexuality is mandatory
The fuck? That reads very weird. Sexuality bi or otherwise is not even nor should it be considered mandatory. Do you write for cable television or something?
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>>15785
Read the rest of the sentence. It's mandatory for everyone to be sexually satisfied when there is the possibility of too much contention for heterosexual mates.

OBVIOUSLY this only applies to people that want to have sex with each other, I felt like that was pretty obvious.
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>>15789
>It's mandatory for everyone to be sexually satisfied
You know those Abe memes posted earlier in this thread were satirical, right?
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monogamy is nice for men but evil for women.
women want to ensure their provider's resources go entirely to themselves and their children.
men want to spread their seed as far and wide as possible.
in a matriarchal society it's men that lose with the idea of monogamy. and women too.
so many ugly but good girls would find husbands if they let their men get another woman or two. instead they're left to go crazy alone for life because they can't share a dick without going nuts
>>15791
You know you're the one over-reacting to a joke, right?
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>>15793
Sorry, but I'm biologically hardcoded to shitpost. It can't be helped.
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