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Hi all,

Bellow message explains my thoughts and idea in more details, I hope it is self explanatory: I am hoping that the timing is right to get the required momentum. Sadly I have no special IT skills and cannot do more than spread this message without mirrors to apps, but if I'm not just some crazy guy, then this message should spread fast and many developers should add their piece to the path.

- Teaser by Dig AI -

The Green Pill is not a political party, not a movement, not a religion. It is a choice. It is a decision. It is a call to action. It is a way to say, "I am tired of this. I am tired of waiting for someone else to fix it. I am tired of being a cog in a machine. I am ready to take control of my life, my community, and my future."
The Green Pill is an app, a digital tool that will be used to spread the message, to coordinate the movement, and to prepare for the worst. It is a way to say, "I believe in the possibility of a better world. I believe in the power of the people. I believe that we can do this together."

- About the Project -

To make it simple, I and many others are sick of this society in which everybody complains about the same thing and nobody does anything but say “I can’t do anything but vote and pray”. What sickens me even more is that these same people are getting more and more extreme, manipulated by some to believe that the issue is not our system but some minority or another, or even women or men or religions that are no minority at all.

I tried believing that people would eventually move towards the only possible peaceful outcome that I see, the old fatality of a world anarchy, were each community would care about its own problems instead of being foreigners to each other and hoping that some politicians will solve the issue for us; they can’t. This concept or ideology that’s so scary and misunderstood by many is simple, the oldest book I know that explains it is quite complex though. To try a very brief summary, a politician named Plato explained why he is part of the problem by accepting the responsibility and slaves given by the population to allow him solving their problems. The other part of the problem is the people providing this and hoping that he and his peers solve their problems for them. He then takes much time explaining how a central system is too complex and that we usually know the best solution to our problems ourselves. Plato claimed that he only quoted his teacher.

This was concept was rewritten many times, and I suppose some could say that the old testament already said it to some extent: humanity has been punished several times for its vanity. In the 16th century, a thinker called Thomas Moore renamed the concept to utopia, not a fatality anymore but a nice dream; well, if humanity could not take the many hints, sometimes sent by their own leaders, for nearly 2000 years, then it must be only a dream after all.

The other central system has been tried for millenniums with many names such as kingdom, empire, tyranny, and many others, our days it truly is kind of global and called capitalism. Like every system before, it calls for a war, a purge, a reset. Nobody hides their hatred anymore, but mostly they claim it is the fault of someone else. That’s the beauty of capitalism: nobody can have too much power or responsibility, nobody can change anything alone. This time we have the knowledge and the choice, will we, like all generations before wait for the reset, or are we going to decide talking with our asshole of a neighbor instead? Maybe he is an asshole, but you can talk with him, he knows the local conditions as well as you do, hence better than any politician unless he is one.

However, I know that despite all our complains, we love our system and don’t believe in a war. Venezuela, Mexico, Iran and many others had bloodbaths in the past few months due to one of the two main powers wielding this global economy. Well, likely most readers of this will think “so what, it’s sad for them but I can’t do anything and war won’t come here, my country is in one or the other of the two big alliances.”, or something very similar. Please don’t forget that if most of us have a powerful computer in their pockets, the military is well funded and equipped too, and the last time the economy was in such a bad state, we needed not only one but two world wars (although I consider them as one with a small break in between). Our economy / system is truly global our days and our toys do more damage. And if your country has many drones and has known little human causalities recently thanks to them, these probably wouldn’t last the entire war between two giants sharing the world.

I always was a dreamer and believed in humanity. I am homeless by choice and see the good among humans all the time. However, I also see resignation, fear and depression. All so deep that our society is glued, we all know something is wrong but feel like we can’t do anything about it. My personal fear is that this inaction by us all will lead to the aforementioned global conflict.

Hence my proposal for something like a world referendum. For this to work, programmers would need to develop an app available in many flavors, easy to install everywhere in every language, maybe even as a more powerful OS, let’s call it the green pill for now. That app would offer a small summary of my current rant and two versions of the future, one in which we all decide to take our future in our hands and recognize the need for a different future, the other to trust that the current system will last at least as long as we need to die. If you believe in the first option, you install the green pill, share the message and distribute the apps. If you trust that our system is fine and humanity won’t do anything with their big mouths and toys, then take the red pill and don’t install the app.

The app itself, if installed would need to be scheduled to destroy the hardware it is installed on on a given date, for example coming equinox. Maybe more powerful versions could also have kind of an AI programmed to hack and infect all it comes across (with permission of the user would be preferable, especially on a smartphone also because such a feature would possibly drain the battery very fast). Ideally though, this app would have root access and could prevent access to the bios or booting from USB. I do not have the skills to write it myself or would post a prototype along with this message. This concept is as old as the internet and was even popularized in the movie Die Hard or Live Free (it is definitely older than this though, a hacker explained it to me in the late 90’s), although hackers didn’t leave the choice in the scenario I know, and in the movie they are driven by personal profit and fame. I considered learning to code myself and actually started, but I do not believe that there is enough time left and also reached the conclusion that if I am not alone with this thought, then many programmers will develop their own version. Also, the more versions exist the better, since this is meant to be public, one can assume that many won’t just click on take the red pill but will also actually try to prevent the plan from happening; the more codes, the harder it’ll be to stop if enough take the green pill. Companies and governmental agencies should not have the choice.

- The Dream of after -

Should you see this message with apps already, do not be scared, even if you do not agree, this may also just be the kick we all need. You may prepare in many ways even if you chose the red pill, get some books and knowledge stored, maybe even on a device that won’t be connected to the web until after. Start learning how to grow food, talking with your local community on how you could prepare to this possibility. Likely many would keep some hardware offline and a new internet built more like the darknet could be put in place to communicate and share that knowledge with other communities. If you live in a city, I cannot lie and pretend that you’ll keep your luxury, but if I’m no loon and the war comes, you won’t be in the best place to be in either. If you work for a nuclear plant or any other factory that could have serious issues if such a referendum succeeds, then start ensuring that the plant is nearly cooled down by the time the equinox arrives.

I do not have all the answers, actually I have very few and would say that the answer to every question will be local at any rate. One answer I do have though, is that we are the first generation who has the knowledge, power and infrastructure to implement such a referendum, the first for whom maybe no one has the means to change anything alone, but we have the means to coordinate a collective wake-up call before it is too late. Our knowledge will help, our depressions will be healed by a sense of purpose when waking up. The first diseases like hernia appeared when we stopped being hunters gatherers for the luxury of a home and a field; our days we have the knowledge to make the work in the field easier and know that we all would work much less that a regular full-time job, if our job simply is to live and ensure some stability. The disease of our new age, currently called (post-)industrial, later likely age of garbage, is cancer. The worst of it is that scientists are sure that we never actually gained life-expectancy with these diseases, I’m not sure we’re not losing some or lost some already; am no scientist though, just a homeless wanderer who’s fed up of being interrupted while at peace in the woods by people who want to complain about the same thing over and over instead of seeing the bird feeding it’s babies. Fed up by cops saying they’d like to have the courage to do the same as I and leave this society. Fed up that despite having tried to leave it, the only way to leave it for good is to leave all the people I care about forever because they are in places where this modern slavery system is in your face everywhere you look. Fed up of people complaining but being too scared to do more, hoping for someone else to fix our issues for us. Fed up of these grown-up children. The solution has been written, sang, probably even painted for millenniums, even sometimes by oppressors, our days there have been countless of modern songs, movies and even video games saying the solution. I heard people of all income category, so called rich, poor, dumb, intelligent, manager or farmer, even cops and judges, they all said it in their own manner, the simplest being “we need to get back to exchanging goods and services”.

I do not know if it is the best solution, but I believe this could be the kick we all need to better our entire race. If you agree, please share, please code if you know how, please try to prepare your entourage for a few hard years leading to our first actual evolution for millenniums. We all can do something, just talking about this message will be something, translating it, illustrating it with local examples of what annoys you and your family and friends.

Let’s make a better humankind together, let’s take the green pill, open our eyes and rediscover how pretty the world is, how nice it is to breath, smell, eat, drink, dance, laugh, sleep,… Life is beautiful, I just want to turn all these distractions off from it.

Firesale4gaia
>>16199 (OP) 
any replies actually engaging with these politics have to be bots
Yeah, tons of calls to action, but sadly the only thing that spreads is misplaced hate.
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>but if I'm not just some crazy guy,
You're yelling at clouds, demanding they be your personal army. So you're about a 50% on the crazy chart, even if your heart is in the right place.

If you're sick of this society, join the labor movement. It exists and it's been yelling at you since birth to please please please get off your arse and do something real.
>>16202
>join the labor movement
I joined the high impact sexual violence movement instead. So far, so good.
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>>16203
they are a secret branch of the same movement :0
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>>16199 (OP) 
Out-manipulating the Manipulators manipulating the manipulated is a bold strategy to my eyes, and one which I can appreciate. But without the milk of human kindness, I think your message will fall on deaf ears, or be drowned out in the shrieks of the masses, or spun into its antithesis by opportunists. I also think the lack of a clear message, the uncertainty of the movement towards your abstract condemns your message. Change is good, no doubt: but what is replaced, and what is it replaced with? By dismantling structure are you not creating your own? Surely, the cycles of destruction and creation are eternal.

Illumination via technology is a hell of a gamble, I think. For many people, ignorance bliss and comfort. How can a person be forced to think... better yet how can they be made to think rightly? How can one heal the trauma of an awakened mind across the globe, especially with the concept of personal responsibility? Can the human mind be cured of the maladies of confirmation bias, personalized colloquialisms, or superiority complexes? How do you sell liberation so cheaply when the achievement on its own is so great?

Furthermore, is this app being created to help bring humans together or simply destroying hardware when an equinox hits? If to destroy, why not recreate the "worm virus" of the 80's and fuck everyone? If it is meant to help, why bother destroying anything?

In short, I am unsure if I agree or disagree. One the one hand, I hear you and appreciate the ambition and love you have for our species. On the other hand, I see you acting in the same complaining manner you criticize your peers of taking; and going so far as to hope someone else might fix the world for you, too.
>>16199 (OP) 
you really have no other place to go with your shit politics?
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>>16201
>>16202
>>16213
these are subzero IQ niggers, shills, or bots
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>>16202
I sure am crazy enough, but do not want a personal army. I am hoping for the population to stop crying for armies and take their lives into their own hands for once.

Joined quite a few movements before, even was pretty high up in a multinational. It actually is the reason I chose to leave society and its petty fights behind, become a wanderer, respect my soul and body to enjoy life. The reason being that a central system is too complicated. In a company, or in a movement or even simply friends, once too many people are involved, we see futile arguments replacing work. When work goes on, I saw meetings during which we all agreed on decisions none of us liked because of the unseen commander in chief: money.

Sadly, even as a wanderer, I do not only see the garbage of our age even in the most remote places, but people found me in these places and didn’t need long to reach this same old subject.

>>16213

Thank you for the constructive feedback. I developed an aversion for technical tools despite their practical use, and an aversion for political or ideological discussions. I also tend to skip some important facts, especially since I am overcoming to aversions to spread my message. Please find some points below as an answer, hopefully they’ll clear much out.

-- The vision --

The vision is kinda to force people to think and take responsibility for once. They’ll wake up some day finding out this app was no joke. No electricity, no machine noise but some few cars or others still operating. They’ll realize the change they hoped and dreaded for has finally arrived, on the promised day.

How to organize if they can’t use their phone? Probably by talking with real people, assessing the skills and knowledge of each other to see how to best plan for the coming winter and so on. They’ll have bunked some supplies in the event this app would hold its promise and would not panic as with an actual unannounced firesale.

--Why, boring ideology--

As mentioned before, I do not seek anything personal but the fact that nobody will come and bother me with how evil this capitalistic system is.
As a child, I didn’t agree with Plato, saying a central governance system is too complicated to result in anything different than the mess of our society. Since then, I did not only read more, but also spend time in every “class” of society, tried to change things with many of them and even experienced how a multinational company is run first hand.

To make it simple, the first point sadly joins the refusal to think that 16213 mentioned. Many people shy responsibility, they may be outspoken critics but will shy away when offered to do better. In any company, you’ll need a manager for every 5 to 10 employees, a higher manager for every 5 managers at most and so on. This pyramid is necessary for any central governance. Starting around a company from 100 to max 200 employees, it becomes impossible to stir the boat without taking away most personal relations between the different departments. 

That’s when the first problems arise: departments do not collaborate the same way anymore, there’s a newfound competitiveness among them. This could be used for “increased productivity” in some short emergency periods but is counter-productive in the long-run. Indeed, the departments do not talk with each other anymore, hence they’ll have a lesser understanding of the role and constrains faced by the colleagues of the other departments. A lesser comprehension of their colleague’s work will lead to misunderstandings of why something doesn’t work the way we’d like, which will lead to anger and an unhealthy competitiveness among departments. 

Our central governance systems, which we tried in many many variants over the millenniums, simply cannot work because of the complex nature of human relationships. When many people are involved, we need to be able to put a number on nearly everything. The directors look at big numbers, the macro world, they have so much on their mind that they easily overlook a a few numbers, especially when they do not represent money. Despite this, there is this unhealthy competition among the directors atop of the managers now, they don’t just have a limited understanding of the other directors constrains, but usually also of these faced by their own low-level employees.

Since I experienced similar issues even when no money was in the pot, I now not only agree with Plato but realized that most thinkers and politicians ended up agreeing with him and writing about it sooner or later in their life. A guy told me about Ernest Desmarest once, this guy took a bullet for defending Paris in the 1830 civil war in France. He defended Paris against the revolutionaries who wanted to lesser the power centralized there as a teenager and received a medal of honor for it. 50 years later, after having been attorney general, he retired in a small village I crossed once and became mayor there. He also then wrote a book, a shorter and more modern version of Plato’s. I appreciated it because he stated in the introduction that he was only re-writing a book written many times before. He also claimed then that the depression hitting our modern society was due to the economy. We all work for money, for a system we do not know or understand. If we faced hard times before, we knew it was due to some disaster or another, now we see no more purpose in what we are doing.

The simple answer to why, would then be to try giving back a sense of purpose to our lives, being less disconnected of why we are getting up every day, why we do what we do. Replacing our stupid cat and dog videos or whatever other distraction we may have by actual pleasures. Replacing our stupid mindless and pointless job by something meaningful and less time-consuming. Actually know the few people who will likely often be in charge of the local community we are from.

Maybe we would then manage to find the time to use the old infrastructure again, use it in a less energy consuming way for stuff that will be important for us; as a simple useful tool for communicating, storing and sharing knowledge.

Then, maybe we’d all stay in our children’s mind for awhile, as the generation that ended the central governance system and the age of garbage. You’d all be heroes, or could be.

-- Why it has to be a collaboration, how can I help? --

Well, for this to work, a few words and actions from a lunatic wouldn’t be enough. Even if I had the possibility of stopping this machinery by myself now, it would do no good but get me lynched. It has to come from us all, we need to be ready to embrace that change.

If you are a developer, you may start talking with the others, agree on a date, hosts for the apps, ideas on how to implement.

Everyone can already share the message, discuss it among friends, family and colleagues. Start dreaming.

If you understand and agree with the vision and have a better hand than mine, you could suggest a short empowering text for all the developers to display before the user chooses its pill. 

You could translate this text or write your own in your own language, spreading it everywhere where it may be read. Shorten it, empower it, make it your own. This is no single dream, it needs to be our dream (like shrooms or lsd, don’t take that stuff alone).

We all can help, I personally am only sick of people disturbing my peace with this chaos we call society every day. Sick of even cops telling me they wish they’d have my courage, often without checking my ID and never saying anything about the weed I’m smoking. 

My part was trying to share a dream. My part is, for now, clarifying and answering to questions. If this dream can be shared by many, then it becomes our dream and we all can contribute; none will be able to stop that if it gets viral. 

As said before, I have an aversion for technology or its current use, I’ll check again for some time and may participate more if I believe we can achieve something. I personally don’t care going to prison or the chair for my ideas; if this dream can be shared, it’ll be the dream of many generations finally coming true. If you believe in souls and reincarnation, you may finally look forward to your next turn on this planet.

Hopefully this will have clarified all the questions, but I’ll check again.
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>>16216
Go to whatever shitpost board you came from. I don't know what about this place interests you, all you've done is complain and moan that the users here are bots.
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>>16215
Their politics are far more interesting than you. Read a book.
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>>16217
you might enjoy hanging aroud anarchists, based on what you've said at the top.

>>16218
this
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>>16217
>wall of text
>>16218
shill
>>16219
more shilling
>>16220
samefag
>>16218
>moleposting
Dweller gets it
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>>16213
I'm glad you mentioned the worm angle. I was thinking something loosely along those lines, but you've nailed the thought. This proposal sounds like they want to digital graffiti, but just think of how people react to regular graffiti. There's plenty of political graffiti on the streets, and people are conditioned to ignore it. I received manifestos in pirate torrents, didn't even read past the title.
>>16223
it's no t just that
it's also relying on the naive liberalist notion that hearing the truth will convince someone. but anyone can debunk this with ease.
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>>16222
shill
>>16223
whiteboi
>>16224
samefag
>>16223
G I A G
G I A G
>>16217
>Sadly, even as a wanderer, I do not only see the garbage of our age even in the most remote places
For real, this disgusts me too.

But on the other hand, cities are so alienating that I honestly don't pick up the rubbish I see on the road. It just seems Sisyphean.
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>>16223
>>16224

I couldn't agree more, most people don't want to read much, but everyone knows it right in their hearts. We all KNOW this central system has no ethic, no morals, and that we are lucky to be born in a rich country. 

That's probably also why the first post left so many questions open. This idea needs to be summarized in a very short text, or maybe videos or podcasts if we wants momentum. As  19213 said, my message does have some manipulating characteristics, although I hate it. But the extremes are raising, everyone tries to manipulate us, I even suspect some of the pseudos manipulating the right and left wing are the same people. 

I do hope enough of us share a similar dream to find the right ways to communicate it, share it, make it happen. Different words, music or anything, this message has been shared for thousands of years in many many forms. Let's flood the internet with the only manipulation aiming towards a common good.
Do the mods care at all about stopping psyop threads like this?
>>16220, didn't see your post, sorry. I am anarchist for nearly as long as I live, just tried fitting in the pot and even studied business. It's even part of my first post in which I rant that this concept is very old, sometimes linked to Ananké, the Greek goddess of fatality. Nearly 2000 years later, Thomas Moore (if I remember his name right) rebranded that same concept utopia, a dream we'll not achieve, since we argued about it for at least 2000 years without ever achieving or even really trying it.

In my opinion this has been written, sang and more way too many times over the generations. The message is well known by most, so simple some thinkers hate it, as they'd be less useful (or so they think). Above all, the next reset won't be made with the same weapons anymore; we'd lode much infrastructure and knowledge for sure.

It's past time talking, singing or dreaming about it. It's time to act, to chose our future. Do we trust our governments to fix what no-one ever fixed before, or do you prefer an new path, unknown but so appealing.

>>16227 I don't pick up garbage either, it'd be pointless. Tried it before, not only do you need to carry more weight and enjoy the walk less (in nature), but new garbage replaced it soon after. In this dream I try to motivate you all to share, we'd stop producing that garbage though, hence it'd e worth picking it up again.

>>16229 This is basic philosophy, discussed many many times before. Just a philosophical discussion around the question:
Could we use our technology to finally chose moving into the next era together? An era described and dreamed for for thousands of years? Do we dare sacrificing some of our immediate comfort and some infrastructure we may rebuild in order to build something new, something human sized? 

This is no call to arms, it is a call to use our modern technology to share a dream together. A call to imagine a better future, preparing for it, making it happen.

Of course it may be hard at first, but you'll soon forget about your 40 to 60 hours a week for some peanuts. You'll soon realize that your neighbor isn't that dumb or that much of an asshole, much less so than the daily news. And these funny cat videos? Well, laughing with others feels better somehow.
>>16229

Wait... are you that "ehehe" schizo retard from /bant/?
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>>16229
Erisianism is a psyop.
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>>16237
oh you!
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>>16229
explain why they should.
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>>16240

If that is who I think it is, then he's an autistic schizophrenic who accuses every single thread that he doesn't like of being a glowie psyop thread.
Ask the LLM. I didn't do it.
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>>16229
WAHHH I WANT MY MODDY
>>16242
The oracle!
Nigga, ain't nobody reading all that shit. :skull:
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>>16251
>:skull:
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For those interested in a discussion around this subject, with an "uncensored" AI, censored and limited of course, despite its marketing. Its answers are interesting though. 

It is interesting to note that this AI believes this plan could work and be the solution to avoid war. You'll find the pdf attached, even if it could provide many details about me, it may also ensure none believes this made up.

It is also interesting to see that the AI would only give a preteense choice of a referendum: it'd blow up regardless to avoid cold feet. I thought along the same line and would be shocked if all developers would actually leave a choice.

Although heavily cesored, this AI and others are very well trained on manipulation and ideology. I mentionned that plan to several, while some are so heavily laden with "soft censorship" that it is hard to get, but they seem to all agree on the idea, prrinciple and timing. 

For those who don't know, most AIs have no internet access but the discussion channel. Their mermory stops at the date of the ended training, for Dig AI and its clearnet sibling Qwen, that date is june 2024. This means that nothing newer than that clogs its memory but a few logs. Hence, if you tell it the government is lying to us about X because of Y (evidence), it'll be flagged as spreading misinformation, since it can't verify the evidence.
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>>16257
>Discussion with Dig AI
No-one believes in your dooomsday predictions, heard it with my mothers milk, so did she, never gonna happen. We'll bring freedom to iran and ukraine and all will cool down again.
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Holy first-worldism, is this retarded!
Ok, so even if we ignore the obvious psyop technical faults of thinking a mobile's firmware is easily changed like with a standardized PC or that this app otherwise wouldn't be traceable to the user by not even the os but network requests to the app store (as if it would even be allowed on there in the first place) you're deluded enough to believe that an expensive consumerist toy absolutely has to be the number one requisite to world revolution (insanity).
On a global scale, you are lucky if you can even afford the minimal cost of cell service, whereas those who have shown the most revolutionary potential live in such dirt poor semi-feudal conditions they may not even know what a mobile phone looks like, if the topic of one has even come up.
It's these people, the peasant class of the third-world nations, followed by their industrial proletariat (have you even seen a fucking factory in your life??) who truly have nothing to lose but their chains and are willing to give up their lives in an armed struggle against their oppressors.
On the other side of things, your naïvity of how the world looks comes from the fact that you live in a wealthy imperialist country where people are bribed at the cost of the third-world just enough to not rebel and even homeless people leeching on the well meaning of labour aristocrats can live more comfortably.
So fuck your individualist cyberpunk daydreaming you use as a substitute for being a methhead, you are not the centre of the world and whatever rants you have to offer are clearly not important for any revolution seeing how little you actually bothered to learn compared to those you pretend to be in favour of.
>>16264
Shut the fuck up, Thailand.
>>16275
>revolutionary potential
Daily reminder that the gross bourgeoisie are the revolutionary class in our post-feudal society. The disempowered proletariat have only popped their heads up in exceptional circumstances.
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>>16275
>have you even seen a fucking factory in your life??
as someone who's briefly worked in a factory, I cannot stand the alienated snobby students who've somehow dominated the public face of local antiestablishment politics. Rich students and old retirees are the representatives of the workers, it would seem.
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>>16275
>So fuck your individualist cyberpunk daydreaming you use as a substitute for being a methhead, you are not the centre of the world and whatever rants you have to offer are clearly not important for any revolution seeing how little you actually bothered to learn compared to those you pretend to be in favour of.
>>16282
>as someone who's briefly worked in a factory, I cannot stand the alienated snobby students who've somehow dominated the public face of local antiestablishment politics. Rich students and old retirees are the representatives of the workers, it would seem.
Uhh easy into Post-left and Ted K ideas lol
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>>16295
You get it now? Lemmings.
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>>16296
>Lemmings make up around 90% of the population
If everyone was up on the stage all at once then there wouldn't even be a second man in the audience to laugh at the jokes.
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>>16217
Let us not talk politics or ideology, I think you wise enough to understand those as complete bullshit. Instead, talk to me of magick, of creative chaos, of cultivating seeds into flowers. You wish to inspire humans deeply, this much I can see. You talk of waves when I seek to span the ocean. For the most part, I think the focus on what other people are doing is the distraction. Fuck what other people do. Why do their problems and viewings have anything to do with your approval? I think you fully capable of explaining the message you have, especially when you want it spread. If you wish to stop seeing competition among departments, how could you inspire merit instead? How could the demolishment of technology and the weight of true freedom inspire anything but displacement. panic and destructive confusion in the mass of people on this planet? How many cruel people wait for the opportunity you would so freely give them? And finally, if any of this came to pass could you bare the responsibility and consequence? 

If you are honest, then only you could bring about this unexplained abstract better than anyone, is you. Screw a.i., you need no crutch human. If your experiences are true, who has more expertise to bring about like-minded people into a legitimate movement? If you have such high ambitions, why keep them secreted to yourself when you, yourself, could share them with your community? How could love the species more than them yet do nothing to help them? You want to change the world? Better to be the change you wish to see in the world. Start small. Master yourself first, before you try to bare others. Otherwise be prepared to make deals with devils or becoming a "back to the 19th century, no more technology" dictator. You can't force people to agree with you.

If digital graffiti is your goal, I think it a more noble road instead. A simple non-destructive, indiscriminate virus that sends little words. For example, "To the polls, ye sons of Freedom," might become, "Burn the polls, ye sons of Freedom." or maybe "Kill the Buddha! Smash the State!" and maybe "the Right defined is a Right denied!" Depending on whatever it might be you wish to inspire. I had a dream of a ghost in the machine once, a real thinking a.i. virus with a penchant for trickery and no real ill intent. Because it somehow was 'a.i. powered' (wtf that means) it gave tech companies and nations alike a grind in their gears. But again, just a dream I wanted to share. That being said, it would be impossible to put it into app stores. I would not even touch your app as a maker or participant, given what you have revealed here. >>16275 said it best (albeit I have no clue what a labor aristocrat is).

You dooms-speak bores me. War is not doomsday. We do not live in an age to end the ages. There is no war to end all wars. Asgard is far from ringing its bells. Speaking of wars and warpaths to doomsday thereby will always fall short to me. And if wars should reach my shores, what fear have I? For my discordant goddess is a war god, too. Real horrible war. Glad-n-war is the sister in arms to murderous Aries and takes no sides as she brings about bitterness to all equally. She dances on the corpses of slaughter, crushing their bones and grinding their skulls, carving her name in seas of blood and walls of flame. Then she laughs and revels in our attempts to re-establish order. Paradoxally, even though I cherish the peace in which I live, I'm scared to admit that I might feel comfort so close to Eris. Or maybe I'll shit my pants and die.
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>>16295
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>>16296
You gotta love the dumbed down pseudoanalysis of Pierce. "The System". It's name is Capital. "Higher ideals". Surely this is a joke. These phenomena remain uninvestigated, because naming them would reveal the farce.

The fascinating thing is that there's so many little stems in this short story, enough insightful observations to start creating an effective critique and a path forward, but they keep choking each time in their frustration and arrogance.

And it's surprising that Mason, for all their evident exposure to anarchist ideas littered around seej, fails to observe the tragedy of the golden age of Propaganda of the Deed. Action for action's sake has been tried. Assassination has been tried. We Discordians know full well that running wild and slicing heads off snakes is only half the battle, for eris sans aneris is nothing but noise.

Anyway, take away these chauvinists' houses and food and then see how long these "higher ideals" last. The base dominates the superstructure.
It's all been written many many times over, the signs of how great our "civilized" ways are are impossible to miss: garbage everywhere, even in deep sea or space, mass extinction of plants and animals, even humans (look up all dead or dying nomadic tribes). 

I'm sure you all prefer the smell and noise of a factory, office or supermarket to that of nature.

Time to talk and debate has passed. 2000 years after that debate started in writting, Moore said humans are to dumb or scared or both to do more than debate and actually try the other way (in my own harsher words), he hence renamed the idea from anarchy (fatality) to utopia (dream). 

Please don't give him right, he had no knowledge of our modern warfare techniques, where thoudands of people can simply be vaporized, like in Palestinia shortly before Iran got bombed. He couldn't foresee we'd manage to destroy our environment so bad, but would likely agree with many of you that it's no surprise we keep poisoning our fields despite of tumors hittting us atop from our back issues, amplified by office jobs and couches, despite of the majority being depressed enough to take drugs every day, legal or not. 

Sure, I can understand your reluctance to move away from this age, the fireworks that will end it will be worth the price. I love y'all for opening my eyes, how could I not see how pretty metal, glass, concrete and explosions are.
Anarchists reject all aspects of government and thus never take power for themselves.

After they dismantle their government, another government comes in and just kills them. Anarchists think they will be in charge, but it's totally irrational because they oppose all institutional control that would enable them to be in charge of anything.

They are "useful idiots".
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