/5/ - Chaos

it's being posted all over the place, many different websites

The janny finally cleaned it up; yay

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Thank you for your effort, Pope.
In the future, consider sliding (bumping other thread) instead of flooding - this site locks the board if too many threads are created in a short time, so that someone can't just wipe all the threads off the site when jannies are sleepy.

Thankfully, I did not see it this time.

Was it R*ssian CP spam or soytroon CP spam?

>>16427
Luckily I didn't see the picture because it was squished.
It was commercial spam, not a raid, but it wasn't one of the standard known-Russian ones we're used to, it was someone using Tor on Linux, posting just an .onion link ending with "/chat".

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Their zzzchan thread is still up. Link is the same, different image and filename, so image metadata filtering is probably out.
If we're lucky, they'll be too dumb to change the site URL format.

>>16427
I've seen it all (unintentionally, it got posted without being obvious what it was somewhere else), how would someone be able to tell the difference?

>>16428

What IP address(es) did they use?

>>16431

The two guys from Omsk (the most prolific CP spammers on imageboards) always post shit like "free p*e*d*o* porn girls aged 5 - 17 [link]" with an attached picture of naked little girls.  It's actually just a scam to get retarded pedophiles to install their malware.

Soytroons usually will spam shit like Daisy's Destruction and other extreme hurtcore material with "edgy" and "ironic" captions like "Scully won".  Most of them are underage grooming victims themselves.

From what it sounds like, this was someone else entirely - most likely someone running a different malware scam.

>>16433
>What IP address(es) did they use?
A Tor exit node IP, before switching to the onion address and posting.

I haven't seen the IBs targeted by those soybois, but I was on one targeted about five years ago by /pol/ raids where one bought VPSs to spam CP. And like you said, the format is clearly different - aiming to offend and often gloating or being edgy, posting many times. The commercial scam spammers hit-and-run and have a clear advertising angle, like sharing links or putting them in the picture, and often not even using CSAM in the picture (I think these ones, while still abusive, were clothed model shots rather than graphic content, and I've seen ads use anime loli and images of pedobear).

As for the Omsk malware claim, I'd be interested if you can share evidence for this. It's plausible, although the most prolific spammers I've seen are using the Vladivostok timezone rather than Omsk.

>>16434

>As for the Omsk malware claim, I'd be interested if you can share evidence for this.

They've flat-out forgotten to turn their VPNs on when spamming CP on altchans before.  It's a guy in Omsk and his friend in the same city.  Reporting them to the authorities did no good because Russia is a lawless hellhole.

>>16433
>modus operandi
It wasn't hurtcore.
I also didn't see any obvious malware, there was no requirement to install anything.
It was a chat with a variety of CP being shared, some of it hardcore.

I'm not really sure what the motive would be for this spammer besides something like a data collection honeypot.
Or maybe it's just a retarded MAP that thinks spamming is a good way to advertise (it's not, it attracts unwanted attention).

>>16437

>MAP

Nigga, did you seriously just use their preferred term that nobody else uses besides them?

>>16439
okay, "Roblox enthusiast" then, fine

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>>16439
There is a legitimate argument for using destigmatized specific terms to refer to non-offending people attracted to minors, and that actually plays a role in normalizing treatment and protecting minors, but bad-faith abusers will just take advantage of any term as broad as "MAP" as cover for their garbage and tarnish it as they already have, so I'm against normalizing it. If they want any chance at the mental condition of attraction being accepted and treated by society, there has to be an unambiguous, clear denouncement of abuse built into the terminology - not even "anti-touch" that I heard pop up somewhere, because abuse isn't limited to physical. If they haven't already, anti-abuse pedos need to create their own concept akin to veganism - something with clear, unmovable goalposts of what constitutes abuse, and allow that term to enter the lexicon.

By Eris' holy tit dagger; I hope all pedos die in pain

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>>16439
>>16444
Back in time i believed the MAP thing was a inside-joke to lgbtqwerty flags and tumblr fantasy sexual genre made up sexuality flags and shit but later turned into a serious no-joke thing that be around internet made by trolls and maybe its got fucked up more by serious trolls...
in a way its similar to the OG kekistan flag but that got fucked up by nazbols and racist retards bacause these retard apropiated it and the media fucked its original meaning (the OG kekistan thing have nothing related to racism or trump, in a way was very humanitarian in the context)
i still have the feeling that the term MAP is still a easy term to reduce pedo apology spam into a mere term of a pseudo-political radicals retards in the internet, imageboards and etc.
>>16440
>okay, "Roblox enthusiast" then, fine
I dont know what these kids (or adults) play today but if these thing are in roblox... damn we're fucked up.

>>16465
>the OG kekistan thing have nothing related to racism or trump, in a way was very humanitarian in the context
the kekistan flag, which is based on the nazi battle flag, was originally "humanitarian"?
Yeah, I buy it.

>>16465
>but if these thing are in roblox.
It's a pretty big problem.
The thing is people like to blame Roblox or Discord for these problems, which prompts those companies to implement extremely invasive moderation tools to try and prevent it. The reality is that online platforms targeted at children are fundamentally bad and will always have the problem of pedophiles, and kids basically shouldn't be allowed on the internet until they get the "don't talk to strangers" talk.

>>16466
Roblox is run by pedophiles too btw, it's not a coincidence

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>>16466
>the kekistan flag, which is based on the nazi battle flag, was originally "humanitarian"?
>Yeah, I buy it.
It was originally a parody of War things and oppression in a modern political context of tribalism and in a way a parody of modern identity politics that're rent-free in people and fuck the concept of human, was made up around shitpost, it was featuring a story about refugees from a fictional nation. No one denies that the design is based on that WW2 nazi and other flags. But there was nothing racist or political about it in the OG idea
it was on 4chan that, as time went on, nazbols edgelords appropriated the symbol as a meme and made more up nonsense of fighting woke things and  etc when originally we're not in that way. it started in 4chan and got ruined in gamergate and political uprising of trump shit and in the way the ruin of KEK cult memetics (well, OG KEK have no political afiliation maybe)
The media and common people just know that appropiation edgelord part bacause the OG info things are mostly dead or in archive web.
If you play at being an ironic jerk, you might end up surrounded by non-ironic jerks.
>It's a pretty big problem.
I get it now.