/abs/ - Absurdism

You haven't clearly been in places.

>>913
no, only vaguely

>>913
I'd say you clearly haven't paid any fucking attention at all

>>912
>I feel like globalism is slowly killing creativity.
Artist these days can take influence all over the world, if you steer away from the commercial radio, you'll uncover unforeseen variety.
>In ancient times it'd take at least a whole day to travel from one city to the next, and as such every city had their own cults, culture, words, mystique, etc.
It is true that for example nationalism and printing press made many minority languages in europe basically vanish. Still we have so many subcultures these days in only single town. Your neighbour can have totally different customs from you, unlike anytime before.

It's like you got your views from that nazi comic about multiculturalism and tourism, which is absoulute bullcrap.

>The United States might yet be the worst example. half a continent with similar views.
Nope they don't have, media tends to push an illusion of uniformity, but reality is far from that.

>Why is everyone in America either christian or atheist, democrat or republican?
No they aren't. No way you can in good faith believe this.

>Going on vacation in Europe as a European doesn't mean shit anymore. Everywhere is the same, coping with the same problems.
We having global problems doesn't mean everywhere is the same. Where the fuck have you been travelling?

>I'm personally hoping for some cataclysmic event just so the world falls into a new dark age and every country falls apart into fragments, just so the world is just a tiny bit more interesting than this boring mess.
Mask off, maybe learn to cope with your existential pain rather than make it everyone else's problem.

You've been brainwashed to feel like shit. The pills they gave you were toxic.

>>916
you replied to every part except the part where it said "i'm not talking about individuals". You're strongly referring only to individuals.
If nationalism tried to push uniformity in one country, globalism is doing it to the whole world.
>Artist these days can take influence all over the world
It's not exactly inspiring when a poor kid in Laos is wearing an Elsa from Frozen T-shirt. The rest of the world is where the first world sends its trash. Culture is becoming monocultural just because of that. You clearly haven't been around much.
>It's like you got your views from that nazi comic about multiculturalism and tourism
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just pushing for polarization.
>You've been brainwashed to feel like shit.
No. The world is shit and you're coping to think it isn't.

>>917
Nothing I said refers to necessarily individuals, there's no unique humans. What do you think poor kid from laos should wear. Do you think she or her parents have a choice? You are focusing on outward appearences, their lifes and habits still differ hugely from middle class american lifestyle, partly because they're living in third world. Saying that is somehow part of global monoculture is so dismissive of actual inequality happening around the world.

>>918
>there's no unique humans.
What? Every human is by definition unique.
>What do you think poor kid from laos should wear
Probably some clothing native to his home in Laos.
>Do you think she or her parents have a choice?
They do, but it's cheaper this way. Globalism is cheap once established. Culture is too expensive.
>You are focusing on outward appearences
Outward appearance is the most direct way of telling what (sub)culture someone belongs to, yet it is impossible nowadays.
Architecture and clothing styles have in the whole west been replaced with glass skyscrapers and jeans.
>their lifes and habits still differ hugely from middle class american lifestyle
And american lifestyle still differs a lot from European lifestyle, which is mainly due to infrastructure and logistics (wide and far(zoning laws) vs small and close-by(bike-friendly).
There will always be differences purely based on physical reality, but all of western europe listens to american songs, watches american movies and speaks english. Might just be a left-over from the cold war but western europe and america are almost indistinct culturally.
Laos is of course farther away and neither europe nor america has anything to do with the place, other than bombing it during the vietnam wars, yet common myth persists in the west that they still live in the dark ages. They seem more "cultural" to us because we consider foreign culture more "cultural" than our own culture. Yet, in their capital city they still wear jeans, build skyscrapers, drive toyotas and write Word essays on their Windows computers while wearing spiderman t-shirts.
Atlanticist globalism rules by sea transport, thats why landlocked countries take more time to globalize.
>partly because they're living in third world.
technically they were a second world country but i guess they are on average poorer than western countries.

>>919
You sound like you want cultures to stay as they were rather than evolving and reacting to the changing enviroment.

Didn't we already have a thread like this where we arrived at the conclusion that culture never existed and was only invented by museums?

>>921
Cultures should evolve and new cultures should form in modern environments.
That doesn't mean every "modern" country has to build the same buildings, wear the same clothes and standardize their letter layouts the same way. Modernizing doesn't mean watching marvel movies.

>>923
>build the same builidings and wear the same clothes
So are you are saying other cultures aren't allowed to use modern building and fabrication methods, or are you mad about people building rectangular houses and wearing shirts and pants in general?

>>924
my dude you can use modern building and fabrication methods to create almost anything. It doesn't have to be jeans and "modernist" glass skyscrapers.
Maybe you're right and maybe there is only one way of doing things.
Maybe we should all clothe the same way, shave the same way, and watch the same movies.

>>925
Maybe jeans are comfortable and useful. It's not like even half of americans even wear jeans or like all their buildings are skyscrapers. Like if car is invented in america is rest of the world prohibited from using cars. You think ancient people refused to rake up agriculture since "Oh no we must come up with our own revolutionary method of producing food.

Cultures have always learned from each other, this isn't anything new. I live in a heavily americanized country but that doesn't mean we don't have our own culture too. We take the parts of the global culture that fit us and discard the rest, and that creates out local culture.

>>926
>We take the parts of the global culture that fit us and discard the rest, and that creates out local culture.
Define "fit", because like this it seems you deem it fine to do away with anything if it's for the sake of convenience, cost-saving and comfort.

>>927
For example we have guns, because guns are cool and they fit our cultural enviroment, but we don't have school shootings because they are lame and sad and we'd rather not have that as part of our culture. Is that too much comfort seeking for your masochist ass?

>>928
are you implying americans invented guns or are you saying you live in a country where it's easy to obtain a gun? because i don't think school shootings are something you can easily import.

>>929
I'm just trying to establish that monoculture doesn't really exist under the surface.

>>930
You can look as deep as you like, you'll probably find lots of little tidbits that aren't identical. I'm not focusing on the tidbits.
I'm having a shallow look. I'm squinting my eyes here. I want to be able to tell the difference between cultures just from the outline, not from the grains.

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United States cultural domination is abhorrent and destructive but possess little thread to creativity. You think the cults and cultures went away? They merely sit outside the mainstream ON OUR DAMN TURF! and the counter-culture just becomes sweeter as the monoculture revolts.
Oh my friend, because not everyone in the US is a democrat or republican, because not everyone there is a christian or atheist! Less than ever, mind you.

Go to the smaller places, outside of main cities, where street food can exist. There is the culture.

>>931
>all the cultures consist of humans living their life
>they must be all the same
Some amount of similarity is pretty much guaranteed. What sort of differences you thingmk cultures should have? Would you get mad if cultures don't behave the way you want?

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>>933
Cultures that have the same food should be immediately destroyed.
I'm sure you understand why this is essential to the survival of humanity.

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This sounds like you're talking about people picking the best stay in a videogame, yeah there's only one stat that gets you the highest score but do u really want to waste time looking for a better one?

>>918
No one is acting what a big should do we are talking about people with souls that are getting drained to conform to a society that's boring

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People are all pretty much the same anyway, so it doesn't matter.

>>939
Fuck up the pipage, chaotic flow, water goes to the floor where it belongs but lacks any further potential energy. You could redirect the water into a fountain, or use it to boil eggs, or expend huge amounts of energy to vaporize it all.

That is all boring in some way or another; basing value system on the entertainment value of things doesn't really work in a universe with entropy. You can have constant novelty happening, sure, but the machinery making the novelty happen has to be structured if not solid. 

The yearning for constant entertainment, the refusal to be bored for a second of your life, is totally a symptom of the "boring" way the things are right now. Streaming services, blooming AI industry, internet churning out more new content in a day than a human could consume in a lifetime. While you can argue that oll of this is fake and also boring, the Spectacle expends enormous amount of effort into removing all the batches of boredom from the life of a common person. It may not be working for you, but it is totally working.

The problem with the Spectacle isn't that it's boring, quite the contrary. If it was a bit more boring, maybe it would be a bit easier for people to disregard it and break free.

May you have an interesting life.

I talked to one of the elders in my cabal. He did feel like the internet had a homogenizing effect even on Discordians. It is one trend, but my personal experience is not as bleak as OP makes it out. If you actually take the time to meet people from other cultures you'll understand how different their cultures are from your own, even after decades of exposure to American culture in print, film, and the internet.

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>>942
>If you actually take the time to meet people from other cultures you'll understand how different their cultures are from your own
Absolutely. I went to the far land of Thailand and their McDonald's had all kinds of weird shit i mean even the writing has noodles in it. Explore the world to escape globalism. That's all there is to it, OP.

There's plenty of variety if you look outside of fart sniffing gated communities and their fart sniffing ilk.

>>916
YOYOYOYOYO HOL UP
NAHZEES HAVE COMICS ABOUT MULTICULTURALISM? ISN'T THAT JUST THE COMMIES?