/eris/ - Discordianism

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There is one real religion and she is Eris. How do you not know this?

The secular world already has a way to forego all material wealth and status and go through years of rigorous training and torture to find Truth. It's called grad school.

>>4082
Because we don't force people like OP to read Principia Discordia

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>>4081 (OP) 
>deeper dive
>other-world
>choose
>manifestation
aka attention-focus, visualizations, belief and planning.
You dont need hardcore fringe knowledge or psychology or science knowledge or psychoanalysis degree to do that.
>Also
>Neville, Murphy, Goddard bla bla
That's just New tought and some new age ideas.
I prefer just do Hypnosis with some Chaos magick.
It's like the same but non-dogmatic approach, more personal and experience and less supersticious maybe.
It all in your mind and will.
(And yeah, the hardcore thing of calling astral, hell, heaven, spiritual, or forces of outer space is another topic to talk)

But if you want to just grab New tought - New age reality tunnel or ideas, you just can do it. I dont have a problem with that and its valid.
Just pls dont hurt other people or do woo-woo shit hurting other people or your family and friends.

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>>4081 (OP) 
>These religious things
If you study the history of the origins and leaders of the new thought you will see that several of them are related to heterodox Masonic lodges or magic orders, besides the relationship with oriental practices and theosophy-pre hippie-beatnik influence.
>the some lodges
If you study the history of magic lodges and their rites you will see that there is influence of mesmer aka vitalism-animal magnetism-hypnosis.
>the hypnosis thing
Even if you study even more you will see the influence of self-affirmations and suggestions of Émile Coué in the time around these guys, but where come from? Mind science and Christian science maybe. Hypnosis and suggestion was something well studied at the time but not so popularized, these religions brought some of this to the subject grabbin it from the medical guys, they moved the placebo effect from the medical studies to a bussiness religious model of faith.

>the philosophy thing
Even in Philosophy is a studied thing, but where?
It was already said by Descartes with his
>Cogito ergo sum (latin) but you need to check it in original Descartes lenguage to know what the hell he's talking
>(french) Je pense, donc je suis
He's saying
>(I think, so I am)
There's the entire philosophy of Will, Magick and Chaos Magick and even in some way New thought.
Belief, placebo and motivations.

>But what's the problem with the dogmatic approach of religious ass-ealots and toxic positive belief
The problem with the new thought is that they see you wrong and punish you when something bad happens and goes against your(or they) positive thoughts or doesn't happen as they believe it should be, even in a jew-christian moralistic view, blaming the victims and telling them to keep asserting-affirmations themselves more much more and maybe dehumanizing them and hurting them more to a unhealthy point instead of looking for other options to the problems and even them isolate them or ignoring them (they even believe woo-woo dangerous and unscientific things) similar approach to prosperity gospel.
You can also end up destroying you or destroying others just for doing the positive thing wrong, positive thinking is not bad, is bad when is not accurate and ends up mortifying you and damaging your ego in the process.
So in my opinion and experience around people unhealthy toxic Positivity is stupid and is not a fun stupidity type.
>Check this to stay grounded on your ass-alots and belief
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo&pp=ygUkYmFyYmFyYSBlaHJlbnJlaWNoIHBvc2l0aXZlIHRoaW5raW5n
>Also
You sound very Con-man christian type to me... kinda normal to me OP just be chill.
Have a good day and dont hurt your neighborhood, Jesus says-saves that. Same Buddha.

>>4081 (OP) 
>>4114
Better watch this documentary if you plan join a new tought cult.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yyktccr5apU&pp=ygUXbmV3IHRob3VnaHQgZG9jdW1lbnRhcnnSBwkJGwGjtWo3m0M%3D