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This board is for discussion about Eris. It's important to note that while this board is named "Discordianism", discussion is encouraged to include all sorts of interpretations of the Goddess and not just the ones mentioned in the Principia.

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Did any of you get into ceremonial magic or magick?
This year I read tons of e-books and essays on the subject and only learned about meditation techniques that have certain effects on the body and mind and maybe behaviour (and one two thousand of boring dogmas of how (maybe) the universe work or what you need you believe to make thing works)
>Also
Although I have a very scientific background to just "Belief", I also ended up learning about clinical hypnosis and achieved some fun effects like the ideomotor reflex or proggresive relaxation.
And no, I didn't manage to invoke or evoke anything, although ending up with the delusion of a tulpa and singing like an elf from Lord of the Rings with a hippie new ager vibe were fun experiences.

Other than that, I just ended up reading about ideologies, dogmas, superstitions, ancient beliefs of metapsychs, and magical thinking.

I've practically come to the (maybe) conclusion that it's all a psychodrama and mind games with special techniques, although I share the ideas of the original chaos magic. Sometimes i was just
>“For Eris, this shit of reciting barbaric languages and words in Hebrew and greek that i dont fucking know is boring as hell, i dont see anything in my mind eye.” "I tired of this bullshit i gonna make DIY LBRP call-in wathever i want"

>"Why i need to do a pathwork into a kabbalah tree to gain some energy sphere power?" "FUCK THIS shit i gonna watch porn"

>"I rlly need to do all of that boring dance and visualizations and sing to banish this damn place?" "*open the windows, play metal, hardbass, happycore, trance music, do a Expecto patronum or kamehameha simulation and hit a wall with laugh and cry to banish the place*"

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>>4230 (OP) 
Well, as RAW (or others) said, communication only occurs between equals. i started bad bacause i dont get a shit.
>Where did you start reading about magick or ceremonial magic?
When I was about 12, I ended up surfing the internet on a site that offered PDF books. I ended up downloading two by

>Dion Fortune (Aka post-Golden Dawn and Psychoanalysis Post-Crowley perspective of magic mixed up with Theosophy and Jew-Christianity and Indian things)
one book was on the topic of
>Manual of psychic defense
which I found ridiculous, although I followed it to the letter to experiment and ended up becoming paranoid (in short... low steem as kid and magical thinkin, not a healthy book for start and to much woo-woo for a kid)
The other was called something like
>“secret Yoga of the West.”
I barely read a couple of pages before closing it and deleting it bacause it a insame mix of beliefs that doesn't make any fuckin sense
But at that age i dont know about the Magic lore and jargon and thing Dion and other magician do or believe to make sense of the thing they write. maybe they just want to make a religion and do money or sell crystal like new agers but i dont know.

>My opinion
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>>4231
>Second first(maybe) start to magick
Without giving up, I kept searching online and found a video on YouTube that raved about a book called
>The Kybalion.
I went ahead and got it, and it was just simple metaphysics. To be honest, I liked Newton's physics better.
Then I found out that it was a repackaged book of secret masonry (maybe) into a hermetic aesthetic by a guy named
>William Walker Atkinson
which disappointed me because it wasn't real “hermeticism,” with real magic but oh well, maybe more magick (or cult) lore...

>My opinion
I read other books by the author, and he taught other things that are along the lines of hypnosis (or mesmer) and affirmations and maybe meditation, but nothing different from other new age or new toughts belief. just mentalism and belief, typical LOA.

>What did you learn from W.W.Atkinson?
eh, nothing, new thought is so boring to me. but the magical jargon and lore of them was fun, but not too fun. its like a liberal mix up of christian science with hypnosis or mesmerism with technobabble.
>Also
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>>4232
>third first(maybe, again) start to magick
At this point, I was already very tired, and I ended up reading a blogspot full of wonders about the foundation of modern magic in a place called Golden Dawn.
I ended reading about book of these strange heterodox magical Masonic order by
>Israel Regardie
I didn't understand anything at all, although the ironic thing is that I realized that each member of the order had their own perception of magic.
At a certain point later on, I understood that they were doing chaos magic, trying things out and mixing them together.
>well...
I don't have much to say here. Israel Regardie is philosophically heavy and was a fan of Crowley. Later, he shared the psychological ideas of magic of crowley. I was never really interested in it, to be honest, but it's fun to read if you know the jargon.
>Also
The first thing that occurred to me was that I realized that to perform magic, one had to be part of a family, be initiated into a heterodox pseudo-Masonic magical order, or read the books to the letter. I didn't have the time or the age for such bizarre things.
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>>4233
>The Golden Dawn and Pals of inner order
One thing I ended up doing later was to look into the origins and practices of the Golden Dawn. Apparently, they date back to another order
although they used Francis Barrett's The Magus (even though they claimed to use Aggripa's Three (or Four) Books of Magic and Occult Philosophy, they actually used John Barrett's copycat version) and some Levi books.
>out of curiosity... John smith the founder of the mormon church used The magus sometimes...

>What's the Golden Dawn from my point of view?
A Protestant Christian magical order that used a strange mixture of ideas from Western magic(Greek-Pseudo-Egyptian-Christian-Jewish and some Indian mysticism), Christian Kabbalah, Christian mysticism, Chinese energy practices, Jung ideas and Indian practices. I may be forgetting something, but I lost interest because it was too cultish for me.
Most rituals and practices seemed to be improvised or made up just in the time, but it is incredible how they influenced other later practices and lodges thanks to the in-filter of Crowley The Equinox.
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>>4234
>fourth first (maybe, again and again and again) start to magick
Extremely tired, I ended up reading about Crowholy-cow and his strange New Aeon pre-hippie cult. I started following his A∴A∴ training manual to the letter, but I ended up getting bored with all the jargon and strange invocations.
I realized later that this wasn't a magical order but a religion. Even getting the physical books can be a problem because if you buy them online, a group like the O.T.O. (eyes of today) will claim copyright if they want.
>What happened
Well, I quickly moved on from this because I was disappointed not to find magic anywhere, it's more like a religion than anything (I would discover The Magus by Barret, and the books of Aggripa much later).
>Later...
I tried reading some of the books recommended by Crowley but ended up disappointed because it was a mix-up that I couldn't understand. On the one hand, it had Christian practices from Loyola (visualizations similar to those of the astral-imaginative body) to Raja-yoga and Prayanama practices and a lot more of philosophy and metapyschs. Crowley was dense as fuck.
At this time I have the techniques but not the context and why.
>Also
One thing that became tempting and appealing to me was Crowley philosophy influence. The guy basically said that everyone should do their own thing (Will), and he was very experimental with magic (almost reaching the point of chaos magic). The problem was that it degenerated into a religion and then became incredibly boring with all the jargon and religious seriousness. Although the bastard still retained his sense of humor even after becoming the leader of a religion.
I was surprised that he even ignored the classical magic correspondences and created his own; basically, he created his own entire system of things
It seems that he largely created his system thanks to gematria, personal magical revelations, stealing ideas from other magicians (research where the saying that every man is a star comes from, from a woman), stealing philosophy, and even modifying rituals for more religious focus.
>My opinion
Crowholy was an eye (asshole) but was a fun enlightened human at times.
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seems like the domain expired. Very sad to see discordian infrastructure fail.

Sarah, if you're still around, either renew the domain or send me the login so I can take it over. Please take this funni image as a tribute.
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>>4221
the domain expired last night, it looks like someone already registered it directly with the .st registry. Hopefully that someone is either Czar or a friendly that plans to hand it over to Czar and have it point to the kalli.st server.

If not, they're probably squatting the domain and we have no way to contact them.
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>>4223
>>4213
I'm fucking stupid I didn't read Czar's post.

Thanks Czar <3
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vote to canonize Pope Czar
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>>4225
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>>4227

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Thede guys of Laveyan satanism look so fuging edgy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHL3Fy-EmI&pp=ygUYVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBtYWdpY2sgVVNB0gcJCQYKAYcqIYzv
How is the Discordian Aesthetic? Like a clow? I sure not very greyface. I dont own much hippie clothes. Maybe like Miley Cyrus or how i need to dress? Just tell me.
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>>4215
Do you think that future generations will see a rise or a fall in spider fetishism with the evolutionary fear of spiders having become less necessary in most places?
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>>4215
>Sex and survival
There's a study that animals when they fell fear or are hunted they active a mechanism or fuck-survival mode that start to find a famale of their species and start to copulate to not end the genetic lineage.
So yeah, that's make sense and its not exactly freudian or pure psychoanalysis but its how the thing works.
Maybe that's why a lot of people want to hardcore mating-press lady dimitrescu (even womans) or any sexy-terror character. There's exist even the famous Terror--horror-porn.
>>4217
Yeah, we're in a way to the Spider-verse. But i want to be in the Clown-verse seeing how the thing are going...>>4207 >>4211
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>>4218
>Clown-verse
Each human culture has it own Clown-fetish.
You just need to investigate
NEO now you're awake right?
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>>4199 (OP) 
>Satanism clowns and exotic a e s t h e t i c
Not gonna lie to you, Lavey know something about a e s t h e t i c. The Fringe-Dark-Gothic-Edgy-In-Power Exotic womans of their religions (theres other satanic churchs) look so damn attractive to the eye.
The religious leader (Daughter of lavey) Zeena Shreck become my crush at the moment i see she on old young photos and videos. Even today old she look beatiful to me. She voice is mesmerizing, she talk and sing beatiful in the same way and have a lot love-kindness.
>Also
I dont know if some book of theirs have a cabal of dress, colors or something. I read some books of lavey but i dont remember something about this. Maybe it's just the threatise of magick and glamour they say.
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>>4219
>Each human culture has it own Clown-fetish.
>You just need to investigate
Kika Front Frontale from BiS used to clown around with the shironuri look. Sometimes veering into distinct mime/clown territory rather than gothic visual-kei. Story was that management made fun of her appearance, so she showed up to rehearsal in the white face and then that became her gimmick for a while.

A performance from back in the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2tFTUN9Xisv

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I bored
Pope you have something to teach me and learn here?
like:
>Meditation techniques (or source books pdf)
>Memetic-warfare
>Agitprop
>Magic rituals or how to start
>Good sleep tips or how to sleep
>How to cook a good Kielbasa
>Psychonautics
>Thousand yoga postures to fuck with Eris
>How to make girls fun (of you)
That's it.
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>>4099
I'm beginning to (maybe) believe that crowley reicarnated in me, although it's partly because I read his book on theory and practise of magick because RAW recommended some exercises of it.
I was reading a couple of books about the 8-circuit system and metaprogramming (the ones mentioned in the wikipedia entry although I did not find the last one of 2025 with advances in neuropsychology) and the thing is that I found a mix of drug, psycodelia, psychonautics, pop jargon, sociology, behaviorism, jung, thelema, psychoanalysis, philosophy, postmodernism ideas, zen, mind-self guerrila, infowars, libertarian ideas (very fun from left to right) discordianism, e-prime, general semantics, technobabble (more like a koan trolling zen, trollmind, mindfuck or to incubate a fucking paranoia) and magick or rather theater with psychological techniques of visualization and meditation and relaxation and exercises yoga like as well as concentration techniques and ideas around it that sounded Buddhist-Tantra to me with some psychology therapies (sometimes look like purple hat therapies but the fraud-hat-supersticious is more like a advisable healthy placebo and not a truly believe in woo unhealthy things, more scientific approach to the reader... maybe a quantum hat chaotic erisian therapy sound more fun lol)
Oh and, weird things still happen although after reading these books and their theories it seems one can wisely choose
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>>4104
I am reading prometheus rising and the 8-circuit model. It's nice to read and the exercises besides I notice a strange relationship with the chakras and ideas of freud and psychoanalysts
>besides I feel that RAW is bombarding me with even more extensive topics i have internet to explore more around thing raw talk
it becomes a little annoying that it suggests me to buy (i pirated the books maybe) other books or more books from RAW or books from hilaritas press (fucking crowley do the same thing). I have not yet read the last circuits but I have the strange feeling (but not the belief) that I must get into magic (or sex magick or tantra), sex and drugs and some kind of self-hypnosis to fuck up or activate the circuits.
>>4069
Pls remember to test the other exercises
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd8y-r-Tt9g&pp=ygUeUm9iZXJ0IEFudG9uIFdpbHNvbiBUZWNobmlxdWVz
There're another one in comment box.
Thanks you :)
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>>4069
>>4116
>Breathwork
>Color light and warm visualization
>Sufi heart
>Chakras or energy centers
>Evocation of Popes
>Evocation of commons
>Evocation of the Mara demon Bush
>Buddhist Metta sutra
>Love and warm wave
>God-form or Universe-form
>"There's no god"
Wait a sec, Is that a Thelemite incantation? Anyway its a good Chaos magick ritual lol
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>>4203
>Is that a Thelemite incantation?
Maybe is from
>The Nu-Sphere ritual
https://rodneyorpheus.com/writings/occult/the-nu-sphere-ritual-2/
>There is no God where I am

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Hey skidoo!, if you can read this book of Picrel, read it. It's very interesting and even has quotes to get you started on magic from the perspectives of Crowley, RAW, some mysteries and secrets, as well as more quotes and info from very interesting books. At the end, it even has quotes from books or studies on scientific research into drugs and the mind, as well as current memetic socio-meta-politics.
If you know about Kabbalah, I recommend paying attention to some quotes from RAW at the end of some mentions. You may even find more information in another of his books.
>Hail eris!?!?!?(damn bitch)?!?!?!
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like umm, gay

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Let's post our favorite images of our favorite goddess and give her our "seed" as tribute for worship.
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>>4177
Are apples good for you?
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>>4178
I hear they are filled with the milk of human kindness, that's why her mythical dagger is so chilly
>>4180

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
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>>4193
I'm sure that an apple a day gonna make me visit the doctor more often.
>>2942
Based.
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>>4195
oh a god, you're not supposed to eat the middle!

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What drugs are best for hailing Eris?
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>>580
Hole in one.
test
Cialis.
>>579 (OP) 
gas station "ginseng"
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>>579 (OP) 
Water.

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Psychedelics
1P-LSD ⋅ 25B-NBOMe ⋅ 25C-NBOMe ⋅ 25I-NBOMe ⋅ 25N-NBOMe ⋅ 2C-B ⋅ 2C-B-FLY ⋅ 2C-C ⋅ 2C-D ⋅ 2C-E ⋅ 2C-I ⋅ 2C-P ⋅ 2C-T-2 ⋅ 2C-T-7 ⋅ 4-AcO-DET ⋅ 4-AcO-DMT ⋅ 4-HO-DiPT ⋅ 4-HO-DPT ⋅ 4-AcO-MET ⋅ 4-AcO-MiPT ⋅ 4-HO-MET ⋅ 4-HO-MiPT ⋅ 5-MeO-DALT ⋅ 5-MeO-DiBF ⋅ 5-MeO-DMT ⋅ 5-MeO-MiPT ⋅ AL-LAD ⋅ αMT ⋅ Ayahuasca ⋅ Bromo-DragonFLY ⋅ DiPT ⋅ DMT ⋅ DOB ⋅ DOC ⋅ DOI ⋅ DOM ⋅ Efavirenz ⋅ ETH-LAD ⋅ Ibogaine ⋅ LSA ⋅ LSD ⋅ MDA ⋅ Mescaline ⋅ MiPT ⋅ MET ⋅ Psilocin ⋅ Psilocybin mushrooms
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I really want to try psychedelics, but I have no friends, so I have no way of getting drugs.
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>>108
>Sleep deprivation
>Oxygen deprivation (via smoke inhalation or holotropic breathwork).
These two are very dangerous.
Spare Kia-Zos got self fucked rekt bacause he cut off his oxygen to brain during sigil technique of death posture.
Sleep deprivation is dangerous bacause fuck your health, it can be good for little suggestionability or for turning you more into the paranoid-apopheny mindset but is very dangerous for your health doing it too much.
>>4144
Better stay away from drug. But a LSD good trip can wake you up, just one.
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>>4156
>Spare Kia-Zos got self fucked rekt bacause he cut off his oxygen to brain during sigil technique of death posture.
i've seen some of his artwork and read a little commentary, but didn't know about that... damn

>LSD good trip can wake you up, just one
>just one
something like this and once you get the message, probably best to hang up the phone. the long distance charges can add up before you know it and you definitely don't want to go over the minutes in your service plan and end up getting disconnected.

also, fun fact, the body high from lsd can be nearly indistinguishable from a well focused lucid dream or out of body experience / astral projection
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>>4188
Honestly the body high is always what I get tired of first. Usually by hour 6 I'm just waiting to come down so I don't feel as jittery.
>>4188
>the body high from lsd can be nearly indistinguishable from a well focused lucid dream or out of body experience / astral projection
So now i going to hypnotize myself that water have LSD and let turn the placebo do its thing... if works, its works.
>also
Well no joking maybe this can work for a OBE lol

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We can make loliteism?
Or maybe its bad idea bacause we gonna make a crank magnet of glowies, feminist and pedophiles? It can be worst than terrorist you know
>Alternatives
>Moeteism with some Mao Zedong ideology maybe
>Nekoteism
>GlowieBaitTeism
We still can hunt pederastafaries you know.
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>>4170
>forgot satanism
Esoteric satanism is also a pedo cult. Mainstream satanism is the best of the four but only really useful as a basic-bitch troll religion...
>>4172
What more interesting critiques could there be? They're uninteresting religions that are bad for uninteresting reasons.
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>>3848 (OP) 
go back to 7chan, you degenerate swine
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>>3848 (OP) 
>>4185
Well it's not a bad idea
>Make a loli religion
>Pray the Loli living in your pineal gland (Eris avatar, hebe as god sound to much weird)
>Dogma to protect child as your inner child in your pineal gland
>Free Katmas
>No organized religion
>Childs are not allowed to join the cult, but you are allowed to turn them popes
>Magnetize the Schaoslaton and attract real pedos and pederast in your bases
>Joke with them, bait them, use them, Kill them, sell organs of them or make dissapear.
>Send to a safe list and pedo therapies to pedo (maybe them can be saved and its just a Pineal gland tumor and its not that hard as pederast)
>Continue in the process but infilter in the goverment
>Kill any pedo ring bacause now the dogma is anti pedo worship.
>Join the KKK and Feminist partys and any political party
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>>4186
>Pray the Loli living in your pineal gland
So now Eris is a bitch and smug... mesugaki? Or a cute pure angel? I dont think its gonna work
>Eat kielbasa at a park with nightcore europop in thr background.
It's can work yes! YES! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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