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This board is for discussion about Eris. It's important to note that while this board is named "Discordianism", discussion is encouraged to include all sorts of interpretations of the Goddess and not just the ones mentioned in the Principia.

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I ask here because you guys are "in the know"--How deep does the rabbit hole of influences TO and FROM Scientology go, specially into "secular" psychology as a profession?
I ask because I'm considering going to psychology uni. I already highly distrust both psychiatry and freudianism, but can't put my finger on the WHY. How far does the "ebin counter-culture"\Thelema and Magick\sub-fringe movements, rabbit hole go?
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>>4375 (OP) 
Before writing Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard was deeply involved with Jack Parsons, the renowned NASA rocket scientist and head of the Agape Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) in Pasadena, Ca. Parsons was an apprentice of Aleister Crowley, the founder of Thelema.

Hubbard and Parsons engaged in 'The Babalon Working,' a series of rituals intending to manifest a Thelemic deity in human form. Many of the concepts later found in Scientology—such as the idea of the "Thetan" (the immortal spiritual self) and the use of intense mental processing to clear past-life "engrams" kinda mirror Crowley’s techniques for 'shattering' the ego and achieving spiritual liberation.

Hubbard is the most recent human to have seen and exchanged pleasantries with J.R. "Bob" Dobbs on a Californian beach not too far off from Capitola. If the reports are true, Hubbard inquired of the heavenly man, "How do I earn an endless stream of cash?" To which "Bob" Dobbs answered, "You start a religion."

Just some interesting synchronicities about Hubbard's odd connections in life.

This distrust likely stems from the realization that both psychiatry and Freudianism often operate as closed systems of moral judgment disguised as an objective science. Furthermore, the profession of psychology has historically been used as a tool for "medicalization"—turning personality traits or normal human suffering into "disorders" that require professional (and often pharmaceutical) intervention. I myself hate Freud, and have a distaste for the psychology of the day.

One critic of modern psychiatry, Michel Foucault, argues that the profession is not a pure science but a system of "moral tactics" used to control undesirable behavior.

Other things that itch my brain: Former CIA Director Allen Dulles entitled his book 'The Craft of Intelligence', a term also used by Freemasonry and Witchcraft to describe their practices.

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>>4375 (OP) 
>>4376
>HGA, switch personality, alters etc
The old niche of mk ultra and shattering mind and making alters and etc are in a way a form of conspiracy theories based in old satanic panic and pyops with some logic but its ignore the real dissosiative multiple personality disorder, if you look The HGA doesnt look so different to a Tulpa or a Imaginary friend but the HGA sound more religious in a way.
>Also
I remember a old scientific essay and study on the topic of people with imaginary friends and all the people with these get hight rate levels in suggestionability for Hypnosis and in imagination.
So maybe HGA, Tulpa, Imaginary friends and the idea of alter personality can make a sense without conspiracy theories.
Tulpamancy forums never talk about the occult related in western, higher genius or HGA or Thetans but the idea sound similar to me. They even say that switch personality, just imagine if this is like a God-form or a personality switch.

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Alright, Pope, you bloody clown. I'm calling you out. Here, I've added a picture as tribute.

Tell me about the philosophical, religious and cultural world of clownery. What do they know that we haven't yet synthesized from the other schools of thought?

Should one include political icons like Lord Bloody Wog Rolo, Vermine SUPREME and Emperor Norton I, PoM (pbuh) in the clown tradition, or are they a separate entity? Are political satirists interrelated?
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>>4358
Oh, they debone them.
>>4354
fun size clown with a party size bag
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I want more girl clowns and less clown girls.

(Circus girls are not the same, but demonstrates the difference.)
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>>4362
circus girls are the attractive super-athletic freaks that the most discerning of gooners desire
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>>4340
>>4362
>>4369
If she can make me laugh and happy, she win me.

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da chaos of nigger smash beckons da erisinians to join in da spectacle of dab owl! pls feel free to take dis invite in hand and join on speee for sum silly hooliganery
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>>4366
checked
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>lineshift
nah, i'll pass
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>>4368
AND THEY'VE MADE THE PASS
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Soytroon dot shitty.

Go back there, faggot.
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>>4371
>newfags doesn't know about sportschan
OP is garbage but that's not the reason why.

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I Followed the damn book self-initiation
Now i put a wonder name in any MMO
Now the entire generation going to ask WHY?
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>>4053
Every day, the Malaclypse grows stronger and nearer...
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>>4053
That's not a Dwemer
Keep doing the Chim.
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>>4053
>>4055
Outstanding.
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>>4050 (OP) 
>>4053
I'm still here...
just for suffering.
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>>4137
The server is dead... long live to the king!!!

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I bored
Pope you have something to teach me and learn here?
like:
>Meditation techniques (or source books pdf)
>Memetic-warfare
>Agitprop
>Magic rituals or how to start
>Good sleep tips or how to sleep
>How to cook a good Kielbasa
>Psychonautics
>Thousand yoga postures to fuck with Eris
>How to make girls fun (of you)
That's it.
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I've found promising results with theurgy
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>>4349
>I've found promising results with theurgy
How? what you cast?
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>>4351
>what you cast?
Not so much casting; rather mostly meditating. It's more about bringing out the divine in oneself, building intuition, and strengthening the soul. 

In layman terms, it's kind of like praying without demands or requests or naivete or arrogance.

I think Iamblichus is a good place to start, if you're interested. If you can stomach Neo/platonism.
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>>4353
I was reading some books on theurgy and in general and sometimes they say the lrp and lrh are theurgy rituals.
>Also
In general in some book the technique its just like pray
>Chose any god
>Study that god with history myth or symbols
>Start a poem with rythmes
>You can do a Soft voice like a hypnosis or a rapid fast intense voice like a sport tv guy or you can recite in magickal voice (vibrating low or high with autorathive magical tone like you gonna change the world with words and in a way singing with gutural or polyphonics)

>Start the poem
>Use old or shakesperian english or any poetic language thou use, you can add more decoration thou "art"
>Add characteristics of that god to the poem god recitation
>In a way its like a Pray
That's it.
>Or go full giberish in a way and use barberous greek or no, barberous words made up to add to the energy or vibe of the ritual
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>>4356
Resh in a way is kinda a Thelemic Egyptian Theurgy i suppose
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcaK2MJLdDE
https://www.reddit.com/r/thelema/comments/1g8ddrk/besides_the_thelemic_term_hga_what_other_terms/

The Star ruby change lrp for more thelemic greek forms
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmHNHq3cGE

In the org chaos book there a ritual replacing angels of the lrp to Discordian saints but that ritual is little more large than lrp, you describe the saints and other changes.
The wiccan are kinda dramatic and evocative, thelemic creative influence i suppose.

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The Sacred Chao represents Khaos, the primordial cosmogonical existence.
Khaos consists of Order and Disorder both
Strife/Discord is the contention, flux and imbalance of Khaos.
Eris as Khaos's granddaughter is also its primary caretaker.
Khaos-Nyx's Lineage is the only one that does not come to naturally birth mere material beings and can be considered the true divine lineage of the gods.
The Logos of the abrahamites is one of the countless Logoi of Eris's brood. Closely akin to their siblings - The Pseudea - they excel at spreading falsehoods.
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an Eridian Year is approximately 557 Earth years.
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>>4282
WE MUST CHAAAAAANGE THE CALENDAR.
I have been meditating on this for awhile now. I find it fascinating for it makes me giggle. I am no good at math (thankfully a much friend helped me), but this my attempt to prove right what you have said:


The mathematical representation of Khaos could be conceived as a system where order and disorder are not mutually exclusive but rather exist in a dynamic, non-linear relationship. Let “K” represent Khaos, “O” represent Order, and “D” represent Disorder. We can express their interrelationship as:

K=O⊕D

Here “⊕” denotes a non-commutative, non-associative operation that signifies their co-existence and mutual influence, rather than a simple sum. This operation would reflect the inherent "contention, flux and imbalance" that defines Khaos.

Furthermore, Eris's role as the "caretaker" of Khaos could be represented as a continuous function that maintains the dynamic equilibrium. Let “E(t)” be the influence of Eris over time or “t”. Then the state of Khaos at any given time could be seen as being constantly modulated by Eris:

dK/dt=f(K,E(t))

Here “f” is a function that ensures the perpetual flux and prevents the system from settling into a static state of either pure order or pure disorder. With this mathematical representation, while abstract, we attempt to capture the interesting nature of the Discordian cosmology, where the interplay of seemingly opposing forces is the fundamental reality.
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>>4289
thanks anon you're a treasure
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>>4281
>Greek hydro-homie
Cool, i gonna drink water in that asana.

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You know what you have to do.
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>>4310 (OP) 
>>4312
OH FUCK OH DAMN OH MY GODDESS THIS IS GREAT AND AWESOME
NOW WE CAN PROLETARIANIZE-PROSELYTE A LOT!!!!!
WE CAN EVEN USE SOCRATIC DIALOGUE AND THOUSANDS OF COGNITIVE BIASES AND ERRORS TO CONVERT OUR FELLOW HUMANS JUST BY ERISTIC-SCHALATON AND CHAOTIK STUPIDITY!!!
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>>4313
but how do we prophet from this
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>>4314
Open up a window repair and cleaning business next door.
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I don't know what I have to do.
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>>4310 (OP) 
>>4312
By the grace bestowed upon me by Eris. By my Office of Infallible Papacy!
For his constantly worldly disruptions and quite domestic incitements shake the globe's order! Never has this earth seen such a personality since Emperor of Europe Napoleon! I hereby pontificate and raise Donald J. Trump to be Elected Head-Knight-Errant status into the 5 Orders of Discordia! I also declare him a vital Agent of Operation Mindfuck!

Blessed Be!

Defender of the 5 Sided Temple! Thy arms reach over the land and sea and sky!

Leader of the Political Party for War on Evil!May ye crush the windmills that kill the birds!
 
Overlord of the Hemlock Fellowship! Eisenhauer ain't got shit on you! 

Current Chief-Organizer for the Citizen's Committee for Concerned Citizen's! May thy audience look over here and not over there!

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to what extent is discordianism related to anarchism?
and thereby also more generally, related to leftism?
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>>4326
is discordianism a faux cult?
I would think discordianism transcends political thought altogether. We aren't crowning discordian monarchs, or engaging in holy wars, or trying convert our fellow humans, or making theocracies, for example; albeit our more successful temples often are disguised as, or otherwise congregated in, congresses, parliaments, courts, bars, burlesque houses, other churches, rundown buildings etc. Nor do I think we have roots of anarchists free from responsibility (even if our founders were hippies and beatnics), but rather our roots grow from the chaotic fires of liberty and personal growth. Better to be one out of the many, than just another in the multitude.
If we had one political 'position' surely it would be a long the lines of disobedience is man's original virtue. That the Faustian Individual is much greater than any static state, or ideology, or philosophic creed, or conditions, circumstances, or consequences. Being a change in the world rather than a hoping that the world might change on its own.
I think we are a religious rebellion of the living against the dead: their legacy, inaction, their laws, ignorance, and their lack of wisdom, lazy.
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>>4329
The dead have done more than the living ever did.
I fucking hate anarchists. Give me a theocracy.
>>4323

You will not find ANY self-proclaimed "anarchists" who don't zealously support dictatorships and authoritarianism.
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If made crown-elected president, I promise to tax anyone who miraculously ressurects!

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I stole this thread type from our unexpected friends at /comfy/ - post interesting Wikipedia articles in the spirit of /eris/

Strictly no soapboxing, we have /gov/ for that. Keep it interesting, but agreeable.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_against_decapentaplegic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_hand_syndrome
Apparently it tends to manifest in the left hand.
>mfw i masturbate mostly with my left hand
oh eris no
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Dmitry
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing
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>>4328
I declare False Dimitri V
a new absolute and canonical Pope of The Erisian church and Poee & Co. With DMCA and Copyright responsabilities of free will and love under wilt and shall be all the law, love under wilt.
MU.
>Also
I now claim state, geographical, public, and governmental authority and supreme control over the kingdoms and states of Prussia, Russia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Yugoslavia, the ultra-French Xino-Franco Islands and the Xino-Tibetan-Filipino Kingdom in exile.
I also demand the codes for all the nuclear missiles and the key to the ice cream and tiramisu vending machine, I don't want to pay anymore.
I also demand the installation of a superior aesthetic in my domains, consisting of female in clowns armor and men in knight's armor. The king is dead, long live the king!

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