/gov/ - Governance

I don't get it. Why?

A for effort

HYPOTHETICAL PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION!!

A FRIEND IS SAD, SHOULD I:

A)TRY TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER

B)BASH THEIR SKULL IN WITH AN ALUMINIUM BAT SINCE NOTHING MATTERS LOLOLOLOLOLO

THESE ARE THE HARD QUESTIONS OF LIFE

>>1180
>>1181
If you won't make your case then I won't either lol

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We need admindude to change the title of this board from "Governance & Politics" to "Governance & Policies" to better align it with the vision of the board:
> The main purpose of this board is not about saying something is wrong, it's about seeing how it could be done right via policy.

>>1186
That's implying any force in the world could stop posters from voicing their political opinions without making their own case.

THERES A BUSLOAD OF SCHOOLCHILDREN IN A SCHOOLBUS THAT IS ON FIRE. DO YOU:

A)TRY TO PUT IT OUT

B)TRY TO SHOVE MORE SCHOOL CHILDREN INTO THE BUS

THIS VERY HARD ETHICAL DILEMMA STUMPS THE BEST OF PHILOSOPHERS

>>1189
If it was up to me, I would just ban politics altogether. A typical thread would just state a goal, and then the initiates would debate how to best achieve that goal through intricate levels of bureaucracy without questioning if that goal is worthy of achievement or not.

>>1192
Whatevers the rules are there would be cross-site posters coming in making politics. Best way to handle the situation is to shout politics down, whichever side they come from.

>>1192
>without questioning if that goal is worthy of achievement or not.
Arguing for the sake of arguing isn't always healthy, but it is eristic in the original sense of the word.
I'd fear threads like OP related because it doesn't really accomplish anything. Not being allowed to question an OP's position just seems wrong.

>>1194
WE ARE TAKING ON THE BIG QUESTIONS HERE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN "IT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING"?

>>1196
shush, the adults are talking

>>1198
Smile a little. Politics is a SERIOUS FUCKING TOPIC.

>>1173
Well you did a thread rather than a thing, what now?

>>1191
fuck, shit, I really need to pass this class and I didn't study. This is the only source I've found online for this question. can you tell me the answer?

>>1222
I DON'T REALLY KNOW BUT MY THEORY IS THAT IT'S COMPLICATED.

IF YOU THINK THROUGH IT FROM UTILITARIAN PERSPECTIVE, THE QUESTION BECOMES WHO'S UTILITY YOU CARE ABOUT. STATISTICALLY MOST SCHOOLCHILDREN AREN'T SUICIDAL MASOCHISTS YET SO IF YOU CONSIDER ONLY THEM AND YOURSELF AS THE WHOLE SYSTEM, THEN YOUR PLEASURE FROM BURNING THEM ALIVE MUST COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE SUFFERING THE KIDS MUST ENDURE.

IF YOU WIDEN YOUR SCOPE TO INCLUDE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, THEN THE LATTER OPTION SUDDENLY BECOMES CLEAR CUT GOOD THING, BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE ANNOYING.

THEN AGAIN IF YOU ZOOM OUT EVEN MORE TO THE SCALE OF WHOLE HUMANITY, ALL THE PEOPLE INCONVINIENCED BY READING ARTICLES ABOUT THE HORRIBLE SCHOOLBUS-FIRE WOULD BE MUCH MORE PLEASED BY THE INCLUSION OF A RELATABLE HERO IN THE STORY.

IT'S ARTIFICIAL TO LIMIT THE BENEFICIARIES OF UTILITARIAN SYSTEMS TO JUST HUMANS, AND IF YOU INCLUDE THE WHOLE OF THE ECOSYSTEM  THE RESEARCH SUGGESTS EVERY DEAD PERSON WOULD BE A POSITIVE IMPACT. (CITATION NEEDED)

IN THE TRULY COSMIC SCALE EVERY BURNING THING IS AN ENTROPIC LOSS SPEEDING UP THE DEMISE OF ABSOLUTE EVERYTHING, RESEARCH HASN'T YET FOUND WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A GOOD THING.

IN CONCLUSION UTILITARIANISM IS CRAP AND YOU SHOULDN'T BASE LIFE ALTERING DECISIONS ON SUCH BULLSHIT.

This thread tastes like a pile of salt

>>1224
You taste like 50% of hydrogen peroxide and 50% woooooosh

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>>1223
I ended up writing "baby, you know my feelings for you are complicated" on the test. Got 100% and the grader wrote his number on my test. Best possible outcome, thanks anon!

>>1227
Don't mention it! Just sacrifice your first born by drowning them into a wad of m&m's and we're even.

bump for interest

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Good doesn't exist.
It's fun to pretend it does. I don't have to justify that to you.

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>>1228
GOOD LUCK I HAD C-SECTION TRIPLETS.

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Bad things are easy. It becomes too predictable.

>>2353
I don't trust anything this John Deep dude says, he seems extremely untrustworthy. Who even calls themselves "deep"?

>>2353
Why do they start the dick helicopter guy music

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>>2354
John Edgar Depth is a trustworthy guy, he just pretends to be pretentious.

>a trustworthy guy
I couldn't trust someone who regularly pretends to be someone else. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not.

>>1173
Why should we do good things over doings things which are not good? I like this question. I think the answer is simple; because we can. What else do we need? 
We can also choose to do not good things just as easily.
I think Fate is unavoidable for it lies in our choices.
Perhaps misery does prefer company. Perhaps every road to every hell is paved by good intentions. I was not blessed by such wisdom, so I must gamble. But I've gotten good at it, I think.

I will not approach your ethics, but rather your selfishness: which choice most pleases you?

>>2360
Are people doomed to do good by their biological, and cultural programming? It's a well known fact that it's in very rare occasions that a person committing horrifying crimes thinks of themselves as being wrong. Does it then devalue the good deed if you didn't have a choice to do bad? For example if a tiny puffin bites you into your toe and you reflexively proceed to stuff it into the exhaust pipe of a taxi that is waiting for some international banker who's seeing their sick aunt. Then the obstruction breaks the taxi and the banker doesn't get back to his office for the NYC market opening and loses amount of money roughly equivalent of 4000 dolphins to a startup company who manufacture water filters for poor people in Papua. As we can clearly see, it's not clear if killing puffins is clearly good, or clearly bad but we keep collecting empiric data until we can say for sure.

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>>2361
Programming, regiments, mental blocks, limits, spooks, etc will exist within an individual yet it hardly damns them. As with all things Entropy effects all. Individuals are capable of defying their natures, cultures, thought patterns, mannerisms, fantasies, etc whether willfully or unwilfully. Spontaneity is the spice of life. 
Whatever our origins or future, we can act. Therefore, we should and chance the consequences.  We should also disarm the dead of their necromancy: the world belongs entirely to the Living! That is why I will be making/eating chilidogs for the next 5 days.

>>2366
FUGCK I want a chili dog

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>>2367
just leave it out overnight
prep time 0 seconds
needs to rest for 6 hr
fuckin delicious

>>2378
Explain the appeal of a hot chilly dog

Well if you first heat the dog up, and then throw it into liquid nitrogen you get convicted for animal abuse and can make lots of new and interesting friends in prison.

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>>2381
If you perform cruel medical experiments on it afterwards, you get Paperclip'd instead. Life Pro Tip, as the kids say.

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is the chili dog a prostate confection?

>>2382
You don't fool me, you just want to keep all the great prison buttsex for yourself!